You might as well ask why one-term, long gone, former senator Rick Santorum still opines on CNN when he never had anything but garbage to spew in the first place
Given that nearly no pundit is worth shit, and ditto political operatives opining, of course I can add Santorum to the list of people with worthless opinions (or, of course, worse).
"Tell me this: How is it we have all this talk about Jim Jordan (R-OH) and Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and we don’t talk about Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican speaker of the House in Congress? If Hastert was a Democrat who we knew had a history of molesting kids and was actually sent to prison in 2016, he’d still be on Fox News every fucking night. The Republicans would never shut the hell up about it.
So when Jim Jordan was pulling all these stunts with Anthony Fauci [Fauci was speaking at a congressional hearing about ending coronavirus precautions], why didn’t someone jump in and say, “Let me tell you something, Jim, if Fauci knew what you knew, if he knew that a doctor was molesting young people, he would’ve gone to the medical board yesterday. So you can go ahead and shut the fuck up.”
P.S. Since I frequently must visit PA, I've cherished Carville's analysis of it: "Philadelphia on one end and Pittsburgh on the other, and Alabama in between."
As a resident of the Philly area for over 25 years now, I doubt truer words were ever spoken about any state. And not much has changed in PA since Carville said that.
I've never been to Alabama, but once you get into those PA counties like Clearfield, Blair, Mifflin, etc. you begin to realize it's a...different way of life.
I was married in PA and in order to obtain a marriage certificate, commonwealth law required that I had to attest that my wife was over a certain age and not related to me.
LOL. With the exception of Virginia I’ve never traveled extensively by car in the South, but I’ve driven through rural central and southern PA several times, and I don’t think you would see MORE Confederate flags anywhere except maybe Mississippi.
I've never gotten this "if we just yell at them enough, we win" argument. Sure it's emotionally satisfying to see the Disney villain get pantsed in the last scene, and as long as you realize that's all that you get, it's fine. But lunatics don't lose their committee assignments, and district boundaries don't get ungerrymandered, by winning the dozens. Giving a culture fueled by grievance something to really cry about is not going to make them back down.
Ugh, Carville. I thought we were finally rid of that pernicious bayou goblin, but for some people it’s going to stay 1992 forever. Hopefully most people in the party aren’t listening to him anymore. (Nobody younger than me even knows who the hell he is.)
Carville should know full well that that no possum's been found what drinks right from the beer can, and where there's swamp water, there's okra as well
Carville is right about at least one thing, and that's pretty much no one outside of Twitter or academic circles uses the term Latinx,* although how he would know that is curious because it's not like he's hanging out with "regular" people. I doubt he and Mary are chowing down at Waffle House.
*(Last year, a Pew Research survey found 23% of hispanic Americans were familiar with the term Latinx, and 3% of them actually use the term Latinx. It's used so infrequently that it makes me - a white guy - uncomfortable using a term to describe non-white people in a way they don't identify with)
the house is too nice to wish it bombed from space, but i'd happily settle for those two being stuffed and mounted (in that order) somewhere in the foyer.
You captured him so well if this were in Newsweek even Carville would wonder when he gave this interview. My problem is I'm not a fan of the ol' boah but I agree with whole chunks of what he said in the Vox interview. Like this:
"They have to make the Republicans own that insurrection every day. They have to pound it. They have to call bookers on cable news shows. They have to get people to write op-eds. There will be all kinds of investigations and stories dripping out for god knows how long, and the Democrats should spend every day tying all of it to the Republican Party. They can’t sit back and wait for it to happen."
I completely agree with this. I don't know why every single time the name Josh Hawley is mentioned it isn't modified with "traitor to democracy" or some such. 147 Republicans in the House voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election. 106 congressional Republicans joined 17 state attorneys general in support of a lawsuit by fucking Texas fer chrissakes to overturn election results in four key states. Every one of these assholes should feel some kind of heat for this constantly but when was the last time you heard any of this mentioned? Maybe the problem is that the liberal media isn't liberal at all, and the left has nothing like Fox, etc.
Maybe four years of Trump has ruined my perception or I'm just getting too old for this shit but I also find myself thinking Latinx is one of the stupidest words anyone has ever invented, and my Spanish father would agree.
I was going to mention this separately based on an excerpt I read on Balloon Juice, but this works as well. His critique here boils down to "they just have to pound it", but if a Democrat falls in a green room but there's no microphone there, does it make a sound? Assuming you find a podium to pound, what difference is that going to make? This is tactics as strategy, coming across as "what you need here is more James Carville". Since he's no dummy, he seasons this with low-hanging fruit like "Latinx" which is irrelevant in popular discourse, and out of the control of politics anyway. This what a Democratic grift looks like.
Well, that was part of my point.If you're out pounding in the cornfield while Pompeio, Cotton, Santorum, McCarthy, Paul, Rubio, and The Mooch are on the Sunday chats and in the Times, have fun pounding. Going on the offensive needs to have a bigger goal than feeling good.
The media can regain so much credibility by adding the occasional soupçon of truth or context like your example re Hawley or simply changing "Trump said..." to "Trump claimed without any proof...". Then again, providing truth isn't the establishment media's job...
LOL, nailed it. The incoherent, corn-pone adages are *chef’s kiss*
Seriously, someone should tell Carville it isn’t 1992 anymore.
"Carville Johnson is right!"
LMAO – “authentic Deep South gibberish.”
I should’ve read down before I posted my 1992 comment. Yours is better.
Nah, I wish I could upvote “pernicious bayou goblin” more than once.
Sen. John Kennedy learned well from that one
Having bad flashbacks ...
Carville hasn't been relevant in the US since Slick Willy's administration. So is opinions matter because?
You might as well ask why one-term, long gone, former senator Rick Santorum still opines on CNN when he never had anything but garbage to spew in the first place
Given that nearly no pundit is worth shit, and ditto political operatives opining, of course I can add Santorum to the list of people with worthless opinions (or, of course, worse).
Shorter James Carville: Democrats can’t be like Republicans because our voters don’t accept lying, but Democrats should be like Republicans anyway.
“Do I contraindicate myself? Very well then, fuck y’all.”
Also, “AOC, Marjory Taylor Greene, yadda, yadda, yadda. Take my wife, please.”
Well, Carville is right about one thing:
"Tell me this: How is it we have all this talk about Jim Jordan (R-OH) and Matt Gaetz (R-FL) and we don’t talk about Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican speaker of the House in Congress? If Hastert was a Democrat who we knew had a history of molesting kids and was actually sent to prison in 2016, he’d still be on Fox News every fucking night. The Republicans would never shut the hell up about it.
So when Jim Jordan was pulling all these stunts with Anthony Fauci [Fauci was speaking at a congressional hearing about ending coronavirus precautions], why didn’t someone jump in and say, “Let me tell you something, Jim, if Fauci knew what you knew, if he knew that a doctor was molesting young people, he would’ve gone to the medical board yesterday. So you can go ahead and shut the fuck up.”
P.S. Since I frequently must visit PA, I've cherished Carville's analysis of it: "Philadelphia on one end and Pittsburgh on the other, and Alabama in between."
As a resident of the Philly area for over 25 years now, I doubt truer words were ever spoken about any state. And not much has changed in PA since Carville said that.
I've never been to Alabama, but once you get into those PA counties like Clearfield, Blair, Mifflin, etc. you begin to realize it's a...different way of life.
I was married in PA and in order to obtain a marriage certificate, commonwealth law required that I had to attest that my wife was over a certain age and not related to me.
LOL. With the exception of Virginia I’ve never traveled extensively by car in the South, but I’ve driven through rural central and southern PA several times, and I don’t think you would see MORE Confederate flags anywhere except maybe Mississippi.
Was he the first to say that? I assumed some bright person thought it up ages ago, and that it had the same vintage as "Pennsyltucky."
I've never gotten this "if we just yell at them enough, we win" argument. Sure it's emotionally satisfying to see the Disney villain get pantsed in the last scene, and as long as you realize that's all that you get, it's fine. But lunatics don't lose their committee assignments, and district boundaries don't get ungerrymandered, by winning the dozens. Giving a culture fueled by grievance something to really cry about is not going to make them back down.
"Joe Biden give you $1,400, what did Mitch McConnell give you?"
$1800.
I keep seeing people make this argument online and have to wonder whether they can count, let alone do math.
True, but he also gave us a recession and an out of control pandemic. Also, you know, decades of darkness and destruction.
Moscow Mitch has done far more harm than that, D.
Ugh, Carville. I thought we were finally rid of that pernicious bayou goblin, but for some people it’s going to stay 1992 forever. Hopefully most people in the party aren’t listening to him anymore. (Nobody younger than me even knows who the hell he is.)
Upvoted for "pernicious bayou goblin". Describes him perfectly.
In vino veritas. James Carville. Well, now I really hate him. I'm your huckleberry, and he ain't no daisy.
What a goddamn smarmy ass motherfucker. Shit I hate that asshole.
Carville should know full well that that no possum's been found what drinks right from the beer can, and where there's swamp water, there's okra as well
This is exactly what I was going to say, damn it.
Consarn it!
Replace Kamala Harris with Joe Lieberman. And Mary Matalan's got the best advice, believe me.
Carville is right about at least one thing, and that's pretty much no one outside of Twitter or academic circles uses the term Latinx,* although how he would know that is curious because it's not like he's hanging out with "regular" people. I doubt he and Mary are chowing down at Waffle House.
*(Last year, a Pew Research survey found 23% of hispanic Americans were familiar with the term Latinx, and 3% of them actually use the term Latinx. It's used so infrequently that it makes me - a white guy - uncomfortable using a term to describe non-white people in a way they don't identify with)
Here's where Carville and Matlin were living just before their recent move to New Orleans (from Architectural Digest!) https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/carville-article-012008
And here's the absolute mansion they inhabit now https://prcno.org/carville-matalins-new-orleans-home/
the house is too nice to wish it bombed from space, but i'd happily settle for those two being stuffed and mounted (in that order) somewhere in the foyer.
We got that dang Jewish space laser. We need to use it.
It's already up for sale; I guess they got tired of slumming it - https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_a7e4a960-72ff-11eb-8118-e3a93ed6b3d9.html
"Somebody put wasps in your Wheaties, boy?" Thanks, I needed an explainer of the Carville explainer.
Thanks Roy, but one was plenty.
You captured him so well if this were in Newsweek even Carville would wonder when he gave this interview. My problem is I'm not a fan of the ol' boah but I agree with whole chunks of what he said in the Vox interview. Like this:
"They have to make the Republicans own that insurrection every day. They have to pound it. They have to call bookers on cable news shows. They have to get people to write op-eds. There will be all kinds of investigations and stories dripping out for god knows how long, and the Democrats should spend every day tying all of it to the Republican Party. They can’t sit back and wait for it to happen."
I completely agree with this. I don't know why every single time the name Josh Hawley is mentioned it isn't modified with "traitor to democracy" or some such. 147 Republicans in the House voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election. 106 congressional Republicans joined 17 state attorneys general in support of a lawsuit by fucking Texas fer chrissakes to overturn election results in four key states. Every one of these assholes should feel some kind of heat for this constantly but when was the last time you heard any of this mentioned? Maybe the problem is that the liberal media isn't liberal at all, and the left has nothing like Fox, etc.
Maybe four years of Trump has ruined my perception or I'm just getting too old for this shit but I also find myself thinking Latinx is one of the stupidest words anyone has ever invented, and my Spanish father would agree.
I tend to think that any name that requires a tutorial so it can be pronounced correctly is not a good choice.
Which is (one reason) why virtually no one chooses it.
I was going to mention this separately based on an excerpt I read on Balloon Juice, but this works as well. His critique here boils down to "they just have to pound it", but if a Democrat falls in a green room but there's no microphone there, does it make a sound? Assuming you find a podium to pound, what difference is that going to make? This is tactics as strategy, coming across as "what you need here is more James Carville". Since he's no dummy, he seasons this with low-hanging fruit like "Latinx" which is irrelevant in popular discourse, and out of the control of politics anyway. This what a Democratic grift looks like.
That bookers are in any way eager to book Dems hasn't been proven and the Sunday morning's line ups support me.
Well, that was part of my point.If you're out pounding in the cornfield while Pompeio, Cotton, Santorum, McCarthy, Paul, Rubio, and The Mooch are on the Sunday chats and in the Times, have fun pounding. Going on the offensive needs to have a bigger goal than feeling good.
The media can regain so much credibility by adding the occasional soupçon of truth or context like your example re Hawley or simply changing "Trump said..." to "Trump claimed without any proof...". Then again, providing truth isn't the establishment media's job...
Thank you Roy. I despise this guy and am so annoyed the party still uses him for fundraising.