“I like to think mainstream conservatives disliked him because he showed them what they really were, but maybe I overthink it — maybe it was just because he didn’t show them the proper respect.”
As the kids say, why not both? It had to be galling to them, with all the effort and ivy-league erudition they put into trying to hide the fact they were racist oligarchs in order to make their “message” palatable to Mr. and Mrs. America, to have Trump come along and just speak the unvarnished truth of what they really believed and not only get away with it, but be hailed as the new hero of the Right.
We all know they’ll fluff DeSantis until or unless Trump wins, and then it will be “Ah! Well, nevertheless…”
I guess John Derbyshire must have" retired" prior to Trump's appearance in national politics- cause you know Derb would say or do anything to get into the dressing room of the Miss Teen Universe Pageant.
I guess if you're an up and coming aspiring conservative pundit type you might want to do some writing for the National Review so you don't have to come right out and list
Gonna be even funnier the second time the National Review disses Donnie before they support Donnie. Already boring.
The problem for them and the rest of the old time conservatives is, you know, Republican voters. It's like the latest Cowboys/Yankees schism among conservatives, sort of. The NR guys and their ilk (shout out to Charlie Sykes' Substack which regularly gives me laughs) are dedicated to using winks and nods while conservative media like radio, Fox, OAN, et al, base their businesses on shouting it all out as loudly as possible. And Donnie is the face of that. The base loves how he echos the insanity they love and have committed to. Gonna take way more than National Review, Sykes, the MSM tut-tutting Trump2024 to turn the base away from him. Too, rejecting Trump, for the hoi polloi requires some sort of admission that they personally are wrong, unacceptable, whatever. They are way too deeply invested in him to dump him now.
I'm so old that I remember when the Dem base insisted on nominating guaranteed losers. I'm enjoying seeing the GOP going through the same crap.
A giant middle finger to the cultural Left. Yep, that's what it's all about. That's what EVERYTHING is about for these people. The constant never-ending war against the cultural Left.
Hard to believe that entire entire political movement arose and captured one of our only two political parties based on . . . the fact that they can't say "n****r" in public anymore and they can't compliment their secretary's tits. Because that's what the "cultural Left" did: Made it socially unacceptable to be a troglodyte.
So is it any wonder Donald Trump is their perfect avatar, their dream candidate, the magnificent embodiment of the conservative id frolicking naked in the fields?
Nov 17, 2022·edited Nov 17, 2022Liked by Roy Edroso
Roy, you silly thing, you don't understand that National Review "has never institutionally endorsed Trump," according to our dear friend the Baseball Crank (https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1592920749769383937?s=20&t=Ycd58YDwucVRugRqL29vwg). So, you know, there's actually no hypocrisy at all going on here. In fact, you're the one who's being hypocritical (somehow) by pointing it out!
Yeah, the NR & such will fall in line just like little fashie kids will always do if DJT wins (shudder!) or even becomes the GOP nominee. But between then & now, DJT's name is not on a single ballot. At his "announcement" folks in the crowd were yawning & trying to leave (ushers at the door were preventing them, I hear). He may have a "non-competition" agreement with the party office, but is such an agreement legally defensible? If polling numbers are bad, they may dare to take him on in court. If that happened, what impact would that have on the entire election? Re-nominating the Turtle for Senate minority leader may not be the best sign for the campaign either -- if the GOP thought their Dear Leader a sure bet, they might have instead put a hardline toadie in that position.
Nobody gets any more establishment than old McTurtle, and he’s said he’ll vote for him if Tubby’s nominated. Ron DeSantis has the charisma and appeal oh day-old McDonald’s french fries, and when his attempt at getting the nod goes down in flames he’ll line right up behind the imperial golf cart with the likes of former Gov. Kris KrispieCreme and other famous, nominal anti-Trump cons, both in office and out. The November election results were the trigger of another episode of what passes for soul searching in the GOP psyche (wherein they make it obvious to everyone but themselves that they have no soul), inevitably ending with them concluding they must double down on the things that wrought the disaster in the first place. All the while, the MSM will burble mud-puddle-deep musings about “What’s next for the Republican Party,” gullibly (or cynically) acting as if the Repukes are acting in good faith or in the interest of the nation. The dynamics of the Republican turn toward fascism in tension with the US’s liberal democratic ideals will definitely leave the national polity twisted, perhaps beyond recognition. It ain’t over yet. Buckle up!
Comparing Obama to Hitler encapsulates the total wisdom of Thomas Sowell, Professor of the Uncle Tom Chair of Economic Sophistry at the Stanford Institute (no relation to the Palo Alto university). Trump became famous because of a silly TV “reality” show since Michael Milkin and Ivan Boesky weren’t available. He also was vehemently anti-Obama, which was what the Nat Rev boys and all Republicans really cared about. His campaign will be all racism and attacks on Biden, which is what Republicans care about now. The pseudoconservatives will get on board after Trump crushes DeSantis in the primaries because they’ll never back a Democrat.
Ah, Chuckles Krauthammer. Sometimes when you get weighed down by all the good people taken from us too soon, it’s restorative to remember late, unlamented ghouls like Charles Krauthammer who are no longer around to work evil.
That feeling might be uncharitable and unchristian, but I’m going to own it.
Just-the-Tip Trumpers was always a perfect locution. You knew "just the tip" came with empty promises like "Don't worry, I'll pull out when the tax cuts kick in".
Props to Trump, for finally outing the entirety of republicanism for the hardcore fascist enterprise it was/is. Anyone who does not see it is not looking (even the blind got braille). And those who shrug and go all in anyway are simply exposing their brownshirt selves (and leaving themselves wide open to the purging that inevitably follows...)
Uh... BRB. Wanna go read a really funny Bill Kristol thing for a change. He's usually good for an unselfaware phrase or two, but I always enjoy a little mortification of the flesh timelapse. Don't kinkshame me.
"some illegal immigrants are violent criminals,” Geraghty said, and when they do crimes they’re “briefly detained by police authorities and then released..."
Huh. Sounds awfully familiar somehow, but I just can't recall..
“I like to think mainstream conservatives disliked him because he showed them what they really were, but maybe I overthink it — maybe it was just because he didn’t show them the proper respect.”
As the kids say, why not both? It had to be galling to them, with all the effort and ivy-league erudition they put into trying to hide the fact they were racist oligarchs in order to make their “message” palatable to Mr. and Mrs. America, to have Trump come along and just speak the unvarnished truth of what they really believed and not only get away with it, but be hailed as the new hero of the Right.
We all know they’ll fluff DeSantis until or unless Trump wins, and then it will be “Ah! Well, nevertheless…”
omg: "Just the Tip Trumpers." It's a polite description, and also lewd. Bravo!
I guess John Derbyshire must have" retired" prior to Trump's appearance in national politics- cause you know Derb would say or do anything to get into the dressing room of the Miss Teen Universe Pageant.
I guess if you're an up and coming aspiring conservative pundit type you might want to do some writing for the National Review so you don't have to come right out and list
"fawning syncophancy" as a job skill.
*snicker*
Gonna be even funnier the second time the National Review disses Donnie before they support Donnie. Already boring.
The problem for them and the rest of the old time conservatives is, you know, Republican voters. It's like the latest Cowboys/Yankees schism among conservatives, sort of. The NR guys and their ilk (shout out to Charlie Sykes' Substack which regularly gives me laughs) are dedicated to using winks and nods while conservative media like radio, Fox, OAN, et al, base their businesses on shouting it all out as loudly as possible. And Donnie is the face of that. The base loves how he echos the insanity they love and have committed to. Gonna take way more than National Review, Sykes, the MSM tut-tutting Trump2024 to turn the base away from him. Too, rejecting Trump, for the hoi polloi requires some sort of admission that they personally are wrong, unacceptable, whatever. They are way too deeply invested in him to dump him now.
I'm so old that I remember when the Dem base insisted on nominating guaranteed losers. I'm enjoying seeing the GOP going through the same crap.
A giant middle finger to the cultural Left. Yep, that's what it's all about. That's what EVERYTHING is about for these people. The constant never-ending war against the cultural Left.
Hard to believe that entire entire political movement arose and captured one of our only two political parties based on . . . the fact that they can't say "n****r" in public anymore and they can't compliment their secretary's tits. Because that's what the "cultural Left" did: Made it socially unacceptable to be a troglodyte.
So is it any wonder Donald Trump is their perfect avatar, their dream candidate, the magnificent embodiment of the conservative id frolicking naked in the fields?
Thomas Sowell, who compared Trump’s populism with “Juan Perón in Argentina, Obama in America, or Hitler in Germany”…
Oh, I see what you did there, you can't just do an end-run around Godwin's law with your Obama=Hitler by throwing Juan Perón in for a threesome!
Roy, you silly thing, you don't understand that National Review "has never institutionally endorsed Trump," according to our dear friend the Baseball Crank (https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1592920749769383937?s=20&t=Ycd58YDwucVRugRqL29vwg). So, you know, there's actually no hypocrisy at all going on here. In fact, you're the one who's being hypocritical (somehow) by pointing it out!
Yeah, the NR & such will fall in line just like little fashie kids will always do if DJT wins (shudder!) or even becomes the GOP nominee. But between then & now, DJT's name is not on a single ballot. At his "announcement" folks in the crowd were yawning & trying to leave (ushers at the door were preventing them, I hear). He may have a "non-competition" agreement with the party office, but is such an agreement legally defensible? If polling numbers are bad, they may dare to take him on in court. If that happened, what impact would that have on the entire election? Re-nominating the Turtle for Senate minority leader may not be the best sign for the campaign either -- if the GOP thought their Dear Leader a sure bet, they might have instead put a hardline toadie in that position.
Nobody gets any more establishment than old McTurtle, and he’s said he’ll vote for him if Tubby’s nominated. Ron DeSantis has the charisma and appeal oh day-old McDonald’s french fries, and when his attempt at getting the nod goes down in flames he’ll line right up behind the imperial golf cart with the likes of former Gov. Kris KrispieCreme and other famous, nominal anti-Trump cons, both in office and out. The November election results were the trigger of another episode of what passes for soul searching in the GOP psyche (wherein they make it obvious to everyone but themselves that they have no soul), inevitably ending with them concluding they must double down on the things that wrought the disaster in the first place. All the while, the MSM will burble mud-puddle-deep musings about “What’s next for the Republican Party,” gullibly (or cynically) acting as if the Repukes are acting in good faith or in the interest of the nation. The dynamics of the Republican turn toward fascism in tension with the US’s liberal democratic ideals will definitely leave the national polity twisted, perhaps beyond recognition. It ain’t over yet. Buckle up!
Comparing Obama to Hitler encapsulates the total wisdom of Thomas Sowell, Professor of the Uncle Tom Chair of Economic Sophistry at the Stanford Institute (no relation to the Palo Alto university). Trump became famous because of a silly TV “reality” show since Michael Milkin and Ivan Boesky weren’t available. He also was vehemently anti-Obama, which was what the Nat Rev boys and all Republicans really cared about. His campaign will be all racism and attacks on Biden, which is what Republicans care about now. The pseudoconservatives will get on board after Trump crushes DeSantis in the primaries because they’ll never back a Democrat.
Ah, Chuckles Krauthammer. Sometimes when you get weighed down by all the good people taken from us too soon, it’s restorative to remember late, unlamented ghouls like Charles Krauthammer who are no longer around to work evil.
That feeling might be uncharitable and unchristian, but I’m going to own it.
Just-the-Tip Trumpers was always a perfect locution. You knew "just the tip" came with empty promises like "Don't worry, I'll pull out when the tax cuts kick in".
"You should go read that column."
Hard pass, pal.
Props to Trump, for finally outing the entirety of republicanism for the hardcore fascist enterprise it was/is. Anyone who does not see it is not looking (even the blind got braille). And those who shrug and go all in anyway are simply exposing their brownshirt selves (and leaving themselves wide open to the purging that inevitably follows...)
Uh... BRB. Wanna go read a really funny Bill Kristol thing for a change. He's usually good for an unselfaware phrase or two, but I always enjoy a little mortification of the flesh timelapse. Don't kinkshame me.
"some illegal immigrants are violent criminals,” Geraghty said, and when they do crimes they’re “briefly detained by police authorities and then released..."
Huh. Sounds awfully familiar somehow, but I just can't recall..