Sam Alito to women: You are not without electoral and political power.
Women to Sam Alito: We heard you, bitch.
Although I’m happy with the results in Ohio, I agree with Roy the fact we’re not seeing more conservative hand-wringing about getting these heathens onboard the Forced Birth bandwagon is itself an ominous sign. It’s further indication they regard the days of persuasion as dead, and are working towards the day when persuasion is no longer necessary because they will be able to implement their policies without the consent of the governed.
This morning Olbermann quoted The Rules of the Game, the classic French film many considered to be the best film ever made. Certainly top five. Here, Roy quotes Citizen Kane, another top five classic. I got to say, I approve of my choice of media.
This is such a cash cow. I'm sure when Dobbs passed ,most of the hierarchy in the anti-abortion industry wondered"What the hell? Why would they go and do something like that?" And I think if they were to be honest about it, The last thing any of the street level zealots want is illegal abortions. Whatever would they do with their Saturday mornings?
Wisconsin is a benighted state, thanks to Scot Walker and gerrymandering, surrounded by more enlightened states. Watching the residents of Minnesota, Michigan and Illinois enjoy the blessings of liberty is making her citizens more and more dissatisfied with poor job prospects, declining public school and university quality, horrendous racism and 19th century reproductive laws. Slowly, the light is dawning in their Cheesehead brains that it is not unions, eggheads and Blacks that are depriving them of their neighbors’ advantages but the Republicans they foolishly put in charge, thinking they would be protected from the threat of scary change. They got the change they didn’t bargain for and they’re starting to get restive. Should the newly liberal state Supreme Court reverse the gerrymandering and restore reproductive rights, it may tip the the scales enough to start the process of rebuilding a progressive state its citizens can be proud of.
Or, the children will grow up and move away to Madison or out of state, leaving their elders to wonder where it all went wrong.
Agreed! Religious fanatics cannot be reasoned with; they are as much ruthless as they are relentless.
If they can’t achieve their goals through the front door, then they will never stop trying to achieve them through the back door; like electing a charlatan who owes his political allegiance to the Federalist Society; installing forced birthed, non-elected judges to do their bidding.
Did anyone watch Last Week Tonight on Sunday, with John Oliver?
Two ideas have come to mind by pro-choice activists.
One: offer abortion services on a ship sailing in international waters off the Gulf of Mexico to all the Confederacy of Dunces; I mean Confederate states.
Two: start a religion which offers abortion services. One group created Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic: an online clinic that provides religious medication abortion care. The clinic provides abortion medication via mail to those in New Mexico who wish to perform The Satanic Temple's Religious Abortion Ritual.
All we need to do is be creative and out think these buffoons. It’s not like these people are geniuses; more like a relentless bunch of keystone cops with lots of money and too much time on their hands.
I see that my (Ohio's) Junior Senator has decided after this election, that clearly direct democracy doesn't work and abortion must go to the Federal Level because.........
I've also heard that the Congressional Republicans want to punish the entire country until Ohio comes to it's senses and gets rid of abortion (and apparently birth control, since that was also protected by issue 1) Very Old Testiment.
"Currently, laws protecting all preborn children..."
Man, that term -- unborn children -- chilling.
And -- a little ironically -- a perversion of language. (Speaking of perversions of language, it's not actually pro-abortion, it's pro-choice. Abortion is only part of it.)
Anyway, my foolishly hopeful side.
I'm aware of the concept that there's a huge bloc of voters happy to vote for choice even while electing and reelecting opponents of same. So choice's W's wouldn't change that but Beshear's win, the VA lege wins, to a lesser degree the weed win in OH suggests that just maybe enough voters have sussed out the idea that the GOP is thoroughly repulsive.
Not to say, though, that I can't be wrong. I much prefer underestimating the American voter...
I was working in the marketing department for a large hotel. There were probably 20 of us in the department altogether. A couple of managers, five or six sales staff and their admin crew, some general administration personnel and me. I did all the writing for everybody. They were all stupid and it really showed when they tried to write something.
One of the clerks was this mousey lady of indeterminate age with thin brown hair and a large prominent mole on her forehead. Just about dead center. On Friday afternoons as we cleaned up our desk and shut down for the weekend we would all discuss our weekend plans. We were all taking our kids to get the pumpkins or going for a bike ride with our spouses or driving to Southwest Ohio to look at the leaves. I don't know if anybody ever asked mousey lady about her weekend plans but she always volunteered she was going to go " Save the Babies"I.e.
go down to the clinic with the people from her church and horribly harass women that already have enough problems without the harassment bullshit.
Save the babies. Her eyes lit up when she said that.
They've got quite a bag of tricks, and in Ohio they tried 'em all: "Summarizing" the ballot initiative with language out of a Chick Tract, purging thousands of voters from the rolls shortly before the election, and let's not forget "Every ballot initiative shall need 60% except for this one, which needs only 50."
But in the end, it's like the Wizard of Oz, just an old white guy with a bag of tricks and an amplifier to make his voice louder. Sometimes the tricks work, sometimes that pesky lil' dog pulls back the curtain.
I remember when Scott Walker got Voter ID enacted in Wisconsin, Republicans were ecstatic, Democrats were despondent, but we all worked harder on voter education and outreach and it hasn't been the game-changer the Republicans were expecting.
Interesting to click through and re-read the assertions by David Freedom that women wouldn't be prosecuted for abortion, given the state of Idaho has not only arrested a case of traitors slinking off to Oregon to do their foul deed, but wrote the charges specifically to keep prosecuting even if their law is overturned.
And the red states have certainly come through with pre-natal care for women they're forcing to carry to term, huh?
FIGHT EVERY ELECTION. Make the bastards defend every micron of territory and spend all their money. A few of those races will break though and we can send in more soldiers to follow!
Yep, this is of a piece in the greater trajectory of the Republican Party since, oh, 1963, when the force of Righteous Anger made Goldwater the nominee. It's literally a Crusade to Save America from Itself. Every insane policy has justifications (not arguments, they gave up on those decades ago) invoking Freedom, Life, Decency, and the Pursuit of the appropriate kinds of Happiness, because they need to motivate themselves, not us. The reason they Will. Not. Stop. is because their passion dovetails neatly with the Republican Party's growing desire to jettison representative democracy to hold onto power. They need each other to fulfill their respective dreams, and as Dr. Hunter S. Thompson prophesied years ago, when the going gets Weird the Weird turn Pro. It's gonna get really, really Weird for as long as the Republican Party exists as a going concern. Without the Party behind them the lunatics are just little old ladies in tennis shoes. Putting Trump in a SuperMax changes nothing about the forces he stumbled into running a grift in 2015, because without the Party as it is constituted now he's RFK Jr.
Sam Alito to women: You are not without electoral and political power.
Women to Sam Alito: We heard you, bitch.
Although I’m happy with the results in Ohio, I agree with Roy the fact we’re not seeing more conservative hand-wringing about getting these heathens onboard the Forced Birth bandwagon is itself an ominous sign. It’s further indication they regard the days of persuasion as dead, and are working towards the day when persuasion is no longer necessary because they will be able to implement their policies without the consent of the governed.
As Rick Santorum said, “[P]ure democracies are not the way to run a country.”
This morning Olbermann quoted The Rules of the Game, the classic French film many considered to be the best film ever made. Certainly top five. Here, Roy quotes Citizen Kane, another top five classic. I got to say, I approve of my choice of media.
This is such a cash cow. I'm sure when Dobbs passed ,most of the hierarchy in the anti-abortion industry wondered"What the hell? Why would they go and do something like that?" And I think if they were to be honest about it, The last thing any of the street level zealots want is illegal abortions. Whatever would they do with their Saturday mornings?
Wisconsin is a benighted state, thanks to Scot Walker and gerrymandering, surrounded by more enlightened states. Watching the residents of Minnesota, Michigan and Illinois enjoy the blessings of liberty is making her citizens more and more dissatisfied with poor job prospects, declining public school and university quality, horrendous racism and 19th century reproductive laws. Slowly, the light is dawning in their Cheesehead brains that it is not unions, eggheads and Blacks that are depriving them of their neighbors’ advantages but the Republicans they foolishly put in charge, thinking they would be protected from the threat of scary change. They got the change they didn’t bargain for and they’re starting to get restive. Should the newly liberal state Supreme Court reverse the gerrymandering and restore reproductive rights, it may tip the the scales enough to start the process of rebuilding a progressive state its citizens can be proud of.
Or, the children will grow up and move away to Madison or out of state, leaving their elders to wonder where it all went wrong.
Oh, and fuck Charlie Sykes.
Agreed! Religious fanatics cannot be reasoned with; they are as much ruthless as they are relentless.
If they can’t achieve their goals through the front door, then they will never stop trying to achieve them through the back door; like electing a charlatan who owes his political allegiance to the Federalist Society; installing forced birthed, non-elected judges to do their bidding.
Did anyone watch Last Week Tonight on Sunday, with John Oliver?
Two ideas have come to mind by pro-choice activists.
One: offer abortion services on a ship sailing in international waters off the Gulf of Mexico to all the Confederacy of Dunces; I mean Confederate states.
Two: start a religion which offers abortion services. One group created Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic: an online clinic that provides religious medication abortion care. The clinic provides abortion medication via mail to those in New Mexico who wish to perform The Satanic Temple's Religious Abortion Ritual.
All we need to do is be creative and out think these buffoons. It’s not like these people are geniuses; more like a relentless bunch of keystone cops with lots of money and too much time on their hands.
Just saying...:)
I see that my (Ohio's) Junior Senator has decided after this election, that clearly direct democracy doesn't work and abortion must go to the Federal Level because.........
I've also heard that the Congressional Republicans want to punish the entire country until Ohio comes to it's senses and gets rid of abortion (and apparently birth control, since that was also protected by issue 1) Very Old Testiment.
"Currently, laws protecting all preborn children..."
Man, that term -- unborn children -- chilling.
And -- a little ironically -- a perversion of language. (Speaking of perversions of language, it's not actually pro-abortion, it's pro-choice. Abortion is only part of it.)
Anyway, my foolishly hopeful side.
I'm aware of the concept that there's a huge bloc of voters happy to vote for choice even while electing and reelecting opponents of same. So choice's W's wouldn't change that but Beshear's win, the VA lege wins, to a lesser degree the weed win in OH suggests that just maybe enough voters have sussed out the idea that the GOP is thoroughly repulsive.
Not to say, though, that I can't be wrong. I much prefer underestimating the American voter...
"well-trodden rakes"
I think we're gonna need a rafta new rakes!
"the pro-life laws in the Magnolia State are also probably safe"
It's the PEOPLE we are worried about!
I was working in the marketing department for a large hotel. There were probably 20 of us in the department altogether. A couple of managers, five or six sales staff and their admin crew, some general administration personnel and me. I did all the writing for everybody. They were all stupid and it really showed when they tried to write something.
One of the clerks was this mousey lady of indeterminate age with thin brown hair and a large prominent mole on her forehead. Just about dead center. On Friday afternoons as we cleaned up our desk and shut down for the weekend we would all discuss our weekend plans. We were all taking our kids to get the pumpkins or going for a bike ride with our spouses or driving to Southwest Ohio to look at the leaves. I don't know if anybody ever asked mousey lady about her weekend plans but she always volunteered she was going to go " Save the Babies"I.e.
go down to the clinic with the people from her church and horribly harass women that already have enough problems without the harassment bullshit.
Save the babies. Her eyes lit up when she said that.
Alt. title: "Be Not Conceived"
They've got quite a bag of tricks, and in Ohio they tried 'em all: "Summarizing" the ballot initiative with language out of a Chick Tract, purging thousands of voters from the rolls shortly before the election, and let's not forget "Every ballot initiative shall need 60% except for this one, which needs only 50."
But in the end, it's like the Wizard of Oz, just an old white guy with a bag of tricks and an amplifier to make his voice louder. Sometimes the tricks work, sometimes that pesky lil' dog pulls back the curtain.
I remember when Scott Walker got Voter ID enacted in Wisconsin, Republicans were ecstatic, Democrats were despondent, but we all worked harder on voter education and outreach and it hasn't been the game-changer the Republicans were expecting.
Interesting to click through and re-read the assertions by David Freedom that women wouldn't be prosecuted for abortion, given the state of Idaho has not only arrested a case of traitors slinking off to Oregon to do their foul deed, but wrote the charges specifically to keep prosecuting even if their law is overturned.
And the red states have certainly come through with pre-natal care for women they're forcing to carry to term, huh?
FIGHT EVERY ELECTION. Make the bastards defend every micron of territory and spend all their money. A few of those races will break though and we can send in more soldiers to follow!
The Democrats could do a lot worse next year than run on legal abortion and legal weed at the Federal level.
So NR wants to win over hearts and minds. Where have I heard that before?
Yep, this is of a piece in the greater trajectory of the Republican Party since, oh, 1963, when the force of Righteous Anger made Goldwater the nominee. It's literally a Crusade to Save America from Itself. Every insane policy has justifications (not arguments, they gave up on those decades ago) invoking Freedom, Life, Decency, and the Pursuit of the appropriate kinds of Happiness, because they need to motivate themselves, not us. The reason they Will. Not. Stop. is because their passion dovetails neatly with the Republican Party's growing desire to jettison representative democracy to hold onto power. They need each other to fulfill their respective dreams, and as Dr. Hunter S. Thompson prophesied years ago, when the going gets Weird the Weird turn Pro. It's gonna get really, really Weird for as long as the Republican Party exists as a going concern. Without the Party behind them the lunatics are just little old ladies in tennis shoes. Putting Trump in a SuperMax changes nothing about the forces he stumbled into running a grift in 2015, because without the Party as it is constituted now he's RFK Jr.