Years after the end of the civil war, you could still find black cotton farmers in the South who had complaints about picking cotton under slavery, for some reason.
If your political model is Fascism, your economic model verges on labor slavery, & your religio-ethical model is forced conversation to a God to be obeyed uncritically, then yeah consent might be a foreign concept.
I feel quite blessed to have been completely ignorant of this publication until now. I guess we can look forward to articles like “In Just 7 East Steps You Can Please Your Man, Overthrow Democracy, and Introduce Your Family to the Benefits of Slow Food.”
No thanks. If I want to laugh at a ridiculous parody of women’s mags I think I’ll stick to Reductress.
"Millions of women across America have been forgotten by the publishing world. They’re tired of having to go to trashy or politically biased sites and magazines just to get quality reads on health, beauty, and more."
This is what the National Enquirer already existed for, I thought.
When I read their stuff I find it incomprehensible. The words don't make any sense the way they've strung them together. I wonder if when they are alone with each other do they have nothing but word salad conversations? How do they get anything done? It's like Trump.
Nothing he says makes sense. Like if the alzheimers kicked in just as the syphilis moved into tertiary stage.
I did too, and caught a glimpse of their print cover, and of course they chose EVIE, because they've styled it to make it really easy to confuse it with ELLE.
Man, that's a'wading through a tsunami of sewage. At least we're spared.
Of course, the idea of powerful liberals and liberalism is another perversion from the same cohort who gave us pro-life, liberal media, freedom as in the right to commit suicide and kill others while doing so, and so on and so forth.
Gotta say, thou', the writer's intellectual confusion about Thurman's feelings about her abortion and her pro-abortion stance, well, it's can be stressful being stupid -- oh, wait, I swore I'm going to be kinder, gentler, less easily triggered (altho' I've been easily triggered like deuces before it became a thing).
This is an ugly line: my ex-ewife had a very traumatic experience with an abortion early in our marriage. She felt regret, she had pain & trauma -- natural things to feel for complex creatures in a complex situation.
Her fundamentalist bitch of a best friend latched right onto that ambiguity. By the time we separated, my ex-wife told me in all seriousness that abortion should be forbidden in all circumstances.
Bottom line: if you have a fundamentalist near you, yeet them into the fucking sun.
Bro, you lost me. Who’s line? Thurman can absolutely have mixed feelings about her abortion without being required to be anti-abortion as a result. And your ex obviously could react the way she did. It’s complicated, understandably. Should be obvious that one doesn’t have to follow the other. And in Thurman’s case I presume — guess — that age was a factor.
I mean, jeez, I thought I was heartless but those people have me beat.
Don't worry, MM -- not calling you out. My "that" had a fuzzy antecedent.
I meant the line of propagada exploited by forced-birth fans that because some who go through abortions are ambivalent, have regrets, were medically mistreated, etc that means "all abortion must be banned."
They try to do this with gender-affirming medical treatment as well these. And it's pretty much standard practice to this day that gynecologists deny hysterectomies & things to women because "they might reget it later."
I think there's a bot farm or something out there that churns out right-wing "content" and then some Koch flunky sorts them into piles -- "Let's see, 'Who Cares About Covid, Death is a Good Christian thing' -- give that to the Federalist, 'Transgenders Want Your Children's Genitalia!' -- that's for Dreher, "My G*d Ben Shapiro is Such a Genius' -- Ben Shapiro obviously, 'Women Can be Nazis, Too!" -- it's about women, put it in the Evie pile."
When you poohpooh the idea that women's magazines are hotbeds of leftism, I think you're underestimating how much what we regard as normal really terrifies rightwingers. I mean, positive portrayals of black and/or gay people, or just being mildly sex-positive, or suggesting that it's OK to feel sorry for criminals who had traumatic childhoods or believe that there are poor people who can't find jobs. It's the same as examples of niceness or pluralism in Disney movies. To a certain mindset these things are all Communist propaganda because they make them genuinely feel threatened. Like Ben Shapiro on the subject of Wet-Ass Pussy, you know.
And then the idea that culture is upstream from politics makes them grossly confused about the power these things exert. They can't recognize that media are reflecting changes in public attitudes (in search of dollars, duh) rather than causing them. They blame the creators of La Cage aux Folles for the tragedy of same-sex marriage.
And all that looms larger in their minds than the things you and I think of as leftist issues that Disney or ladies' magazines (other than maybe Teen Vogue) won't touch, like corporate greed or systemic racism, because those are so hard to think about, and what I saw on TV last night is easy. I.e., they're dumb and lazy. So I think they really mean it.
"They can't recognize that media are reflecting changes in public attitudes (in search of dollars, duh) rather than causing them."
Yes, yes, yes. But recognizing this fact means acknowledging that people have been exposed to your ideas and don't like them. Much better to imagine that people WOULD like what you're offering if they weren't kept from it by powerful liberal censorship.
Most of their rhetoric these days is just workarounds to avoid "People see what we're selling and don't want it." So we get "The election was stolen!" instead of "Most people hate Donald Trump."
I wouldn't think that it would be that hard to find a guy who will culminate all over you like they do in the movies, but maybe I'm thinking of the wrong kind of movies.
The neat switcheroo into victim complex fantasia never does fail to amaze me. The "vaccine passport" (as if such a thing actually exists) equals Racism is gobsmacking. Which then is always followed by "We need to ban CRT because it says that Racism exists." [caveat: I know the principle is more complex & nuanced than that, this is the RWNJ reduction/parody]
Here's the better headline:
“Why Are We Ignoring That Acts of Racism are Racism In Action?”
The whole Kulturkunst marchstep to the bottom reveals infinite worlds into the political psychology of teh Fascists. In Marxian analysis (which is not intended as an ideal, but a model for how things actually work in any society), society consists of an economic Base overlayed by the Superstructure. Base contains labor, capital, resources, economic relations, etc. The Superstructure is everything cultural or political that justifies & defends how that Base is constructed --so laws, policing, religion, education, art, music, etc. They are always reflections of each other, and real social change cannot occur until the Base itself changes.
For the Fascists, the model is reversed. If Culture is right, everything falls into place. Workers worry more about "miscegenation" than misapproriation; the "wages of sin" more than one's own wages.
The kicker here is how quickly most accept the Fascist model as natural & where the war actually is. This is one reason I'd argue that most of the Anglo-American world has been low-grade Fascism since 1865. Many are totally comfortable engaging the Fascists on the cultural side because it's easier than thinking about why they're there: they're there to protect some form of capitalism, labor exploitation (which is usually racially inflected), corporatist -- though not their accelerated, global versions seen today. A colonial, imperial model maybe...
Also, the culture war aspects are funnier & easier to mock, but not the systemic solution to Fascist bedbugs...
"For the Fascists, the model is reversed." Just so. That's why they created so many Bizarro-world versions of actually popular culture items. And why they're maddest at Hollywood --because, it addition to the talent barrier they have such trouble surmounting, there's the matter of big budgets -- all they know about movies is that the expensive ones are popular, so that's what they want to do, without wasting any time earning their stripes on the indie circuit.
Sans doute, that's why the Fash rage against them so. The Fascist model is corporations subservient to the Volk -- Bill Gates would be fine if he wore a MAGA hat
“men work 8.5 hours, compared to 7.6 hours for women”
Its almost as though there’s a correlation between the number of men in upper management positions and the lower number of women in those same positions. It’s hard to “work” 8.5 hours a day when you can’t take 3-hour “working lunches” and compulsively check your stock portfolio online and call it “work.”
Also, maybe women are often forced into jobs with that purposefully keep them from full-time status and benefits?
Also, these stats were cited by Jordan Petersen, so yeah between the rare steaks, the amphetamines, & the crocodile tears, he might be misreading the data...
Yeah when we "correct" for all the reasons women don't get paid as much, it turns out that they don't get paid that much less, says person who calls himself an econometrician
“Why Do Feminists Promote Sexual Liberation If They Believe We Live In A Rape Culture?”
Hmmmm . . . lemme see here. Um, something missing in the idea that sex = rape and rape = sex. What could it be . . . .? Oooooh! Maybe CONSENT?
Bullies don't believe in consent. (This has been, etc.)
Years after the end of the civil war, you could still find black cotton farmers in the South who had complaints about picking cotton under slavery, for some reason.
Consent's always the sticking point with them.
If your political model is Fascism, your economic model verges on labor slavery, & your religio-ethical model is forced conversation to a God to be obeyed uncritically, then yeah consent might be a foreign concept.
I feel quite blessed to have been completely ignorant of this publication until now. I guess we can look forward to articles like “In Just 7 East Steps You Can Please Your Man, Overthrow Democracy, and Introduce Your Family to the Benefits of Slow Food.”
No thanks. If I want to laugh at a ridiculous parody of women’s mags I think I’ll stick to Reductress.
Reductress is pretty good!
They don't always connect with the ball but when they do they hit it out of the park.
Nitpick, I know, but this:
"Millions of women across America have been forgotten by the publishing world. They’re tired of having to go to trashy or politically biased sites and magazines just to get quality reads on health, beauty, and more."
This is what the National Enquirer already existed for, I thought.
Yes!
"-shitty alternatives to art that we consume like corn syrup."
For the win!
Whenever somebody says they're "unbeholden" about something " I just assume they're beholden as fuck.
"children being forced to wear masks, social distance, and carry the burden of adults’ fear, and they believe it’s a step too far… "
Now active shooter drills - that's just good sense.
Mmm, my favorite song by The Darkness, "I'm Beholden My Own"
beholden, behooved, bespoke, beethoven...did anyone ask the bees first??!! HUH??!!
You oughtta read more Spenser. Lots of great be- part participles. My favorite is "beblubbred" (ugly crying)
I followed a link and read an Evie article. The writing was abysmal, on a third or fourth grade level.
You misspelled “rate.”
You’re a better person than I am.
I counted no less than FOURTEEN links in Roy's article, I didn't have the nerve to click on even one.
His new gig is shilling for Evie
When I read their stuff I find it incomprehensible. The words don't make any sense the way they've strung them together. I wonder if when they are alone with each other do they have nothing but word salad conversations? How do they get anything done? It's like Trump.
Nothing he says makes sense. Like if the alzheimers kicked in just as the syphilis moved into tertiary stage.
I did too, and caught a glimpse of their print cover, and of course they chose EVIE, because they've styled it to make it really easy to confuse it with ELLE.
And yes, abysmal.
“…but alas…” Oh my.
Evie might more appropriately be renamed Evita or Eva.
Evian--light, insubstantial, expensive status symbol
--and "naive" spelled backwards!
Bravo, but don't tell them...
nah, many people liked Evita
Wait, dril is old-fashioned?
He's trad, dad!
Marabel Morgan, I sense your spirit...
Man, that's a'wading through a tsunami of sewage. At least we're spared.
Of course, the idea of powerful liberals and liberalism is another perversion from the same cohort who gave us pro-life, liberal media, freedom as in the right to commit suicide and kill others while doing so, and so on and so forth.
Gotta say, thou', the writer's intellectual confusion about Thurman's feelings about her abortion and her pro-abortion stance, well, it's can be stressful being stupid -- oh, wait, I swore I'm going to be kinder, gentler, less easily triggered (altho' I've been easily triggered like deuces before it became a thing).
This is an ugly line: my ex-ewife had a very traumatic experience with an abortion early in our marriage. She felt regret, she had pain & trauma -- natural things to feel for complex creatures in a complex situation.
Her fundamentalist bitch of a best friend latched right onto that ambiguity. By the time we separated, my ex-wife told me in all seriousness that abortion should be forbidden in all circumstances.
Bottom line: if you have a fundamentalist near you, yeet them into the fucking sun.
Bro, you lost me. Who’s line? Thurman can absolutely have mixed feelings about her abortion without being required to be anti-abortion as a result. And your ex obviously could react the way she did. It’s complicated, understandably. Should be obvious that one doesn’t have to follow the other. And in Thurman’s case I presume — guess — that age was a factor.
I mean, jeez, I thought I was heartless but those people have me beat.
Don't worry, MM -- not calling you out. My "that" had a fuzzy antecedent.
I meant the line of propagada exploited by forced-birth fans that because some who go through abortions are ambivalent, have regrets, were medically mistreated, etc that means "all abortion must be banned."
They try to do this with gender-affirming medical treatment as well these. And it's pretty much standard practice to this day that gynecologists deny hysterectomies & things to women because "they might reget it later."
I assumed but I presume you know about assumptions and I more than filled my quota of that kind of ass’ing this week 8o
Rock on
Once again, Roy mucks about in the filth and reports back, so that we don't have to. Roy, you don't get paid enough!
I think there's a bot farm or something out there that churns out right-wing "content" and then some Koch flunky sorts them into piles -- "Let's see, 'Who Cares About Covid, Death is a Good Christian thing' -- give that to the Federalist, 'Transgenders Want Your Children's Genitalia!' -- that's for Dreher, "My G*d Ben Shapiro is Such a Genius' -- Ben Shapiro obviously, 'Women Can be Nazis, Too!" -- it's about women, put it in the Evie pile."
There really was a "death is good" anti-vaxx thing getting passed around on Twitter the other day.
Well, the Federalist is sui generis.
Thank Go--well, you know what I mean.
You mean AI (Antisocial Intelligence)?
Artificial Ignorance: all teh Dumb, but with half the calories
When you poohpooh the idea that women's magazines are hotbeds of leftism, I think you're underestimating how much what we regard as normal really terrifies rightwingers. I mean, positive portrayals of black and/or gay people, or just being mildly sex-positive, or suggesting that it's OK to feel sorry for criminals who had traumatic childhoods or believe that there are poor people who can't find jobs. It's the same as examples of niceness or pluralism in Disney movies. To a certain mindset these things are all Communist propaganda because they make them genuinely feel threatened. Like Ben Shapiro on the subject of Wet-Ass Pussy, you know.
And then the idea that culture is upstream from politics makes them grossly confused about the power these things exert. They can't recognize that media are reflecting changes in public attitudes (in search of dollars, duh) rather than causing them. They blame the creators of La Cage aux Folles for the tragedy of same-sex marriage.
And all that looms larger in their minds than the things you and I think of as leftist issues that Disney or ladies' magazines (other than maybe Teen Vogue) won't touch, like corporate greed or systemic racism, because those are so hard to think about, and what I saw on TV last night is easy. I.e., they're dumb and lazy. So I think they really mean it.
"They can't recognize that media are reflecting changes in public attitudes (in search of dollars, duh) rather than causing them."
Yes, yes, yes. But recognizing this fact means acknowledging that people have been exposed to your ideas and don't like them. Much better to imagine that people WOULD like what you're offering if they weren't kept from it by powerful liberal censorship.
Most of their rhetoric these days is just workarounds to avoid "People see what we're selling and don't want it." So we get "The election was stolen!" instead of "Most people hate Donald Trump."
This is why they're always going on about having things "shoved down their throat(s)". Because they would do so to the rest of us if they could.
Yeah. Projectors R Us (I mean them)
Well, let's be fair. These days, probably about 90% of intubations are performed on unvaccinated Republicans.
(Ba-dum-tish)
"...finding real-life culminations of the good men depicted in stories and movies is uncommon”
No, you don't say.
Also, "culminations"?
It's what happens when you write like you think you're smart (of which I'm probably guilty myself)
Spell-check needs an add-on where it's allowed to highlight a correctly spelled word and generate a pop-up that says, "Are you fucking kidding me?"
"culminations" lol
If you want a "happy ending" go get a shady massage...
I wouldn't think that it would be that hard to find a guy who will culminate all over you like they do in the movies, but maybe I'm thinking of the wrong kind of movies.
Or the right ones... ;)
Culminate, with extreme prejudice.
I totally see this: American movies _never_ tell stories about heroes, or good men.
"Why can't I meet any fictional characters?"
And I want a boyfriend
I want a boyfriend
I want all that stupid old shit
Like letters and sodas Letters and sodas
-- Liz Phair
The neat switcheroo into victim complex fantasia never does fail to amaze me. The "vaccine passport" (as if such a thing actually exists) equals Racism is gobsmacking. Which then is always followed by "We need to ban CRT because it says that Racism exists." [caveat: I know the principle is more complex & nuanced than that, this is the RWNJ reduction/parody]
Here's the better headline:
“Why Are We Ignoring That Acts of Racism are Racism In Action?”
The whole Kulturkunst marchstep to the bottom reveals infinite worlds into the political psychology of teh Fascists. In Marxian analysis (which is not intended as an ideal, but a model for how things actually work in any society), society consists of an economic Base overlayed by the Superstructure. Base contains labor, capital, resources, economic relations, etc. The Superstructure is everything cultural or political that justifies & defends how that Base is constructed --so laws, policing, religion, education, art, music, etc. They are always reflections of each other, and real social change cannot occur until the Base itself changes.
For the Fascists, the model is reversed. If Culture is right, everything falls into place. Workers worry more about "miscegenation" than misapproriation; the "wages of sin" more than one's own wages.
The kicker here is how quickly most accept the Fascist model as natural & where the war actually is. This is one reason I'd argue that most of the Anglo-American world has been low-grade Fascism since 1865. Many are totally comfortable engaging the Fascists on the cultural side because it's easier than thinking about why they're there: they're there to protect some form of capitalism, labor exploitation (which is usually racially inflected), corporatist -- though not their accelerated, global versions seen today. A colonial, imperial model maybe...
Also, the culture war aspects are funnier & easier to mock, but not the systemic solution to Fascist bedbugs...
"For the Fascists, the model is reversed." Just so. That's why they created so many Bizarro-world versions of actually popular culture items. And why they're maddest at Hollywood --because, it addition to the talent barrier they have such trouble surmounting, there's the matter of big budgets -- all they know about movies is that the expensive ones are popular, so that's what they want to do, without wasting any time earning their stripes on the indie circuit.
Well, maybe...but the corporatists ARE the studios, and the funders of all the silly movies and their silly sequels, and THEIR silly sequels...
Sans doute, that's why the Fash rage against them so. The Fascist model is corporations subservient to the Volk -- Bill Gates would be fine if he wore a MAGA hat
“men work 8.5 hours, compared to 7.6 hours for women”
Its almost as though there’s a correlation between the number of men in upper management positions and the lower number of women in those same positions. It’s hard to “work” 8.5 hours a day when you can’t take 3-hour “working lunches” and compulsively check your stock portfolio online and call it “work.”
Also, maybe women are often forced into jobs with that purposefully keep them from full-time status and benefits?
It's also hard to work more hours when you can't get hired for full-time positions because companies don't want to pay benefits.
"Men lie more about how much they work, recent survey says"
Also, these stats were cited by Jordan Petersen, so yeah between the rare steaks, the amphetamines, & the crocodile tears, he might be misreading the data...
Yeah when we "correct" for all the reasons women don't get paid as much, it turns out that they don't get paid that much less, says person who calls himself an econometrician