Thanks, Roy. Scorsese is my favorite director so of course I’ll be seeing this soon.
I love Goodfellas, it’s in my top five films, and one of the most frightening scenes is the one you mention, where DeNiro’s character solicitously, almost paternally, directs Karen Hill down the street into the shop where she would be murdered or at least abducted to put pressure on Henry. Just the casualness of DeNiro’s duplicity makes it terrifying. I’m looking forward to seeing what he does with Hale.
An old old fart theory: back when fPOTUS was starting up his Make America Great Again, I thought the early 1920s was what he had in mind: post-Palmer raids, post-racial riots, prohibition workarounds, the rise and legitimization of the KKK, the development of Jim Crow, and this: not just stealing Indian lands “gifted” to the conquered by the conquerors but this time trying to steal the resources under the land by any and all means.
You have surely noticed conscious efforts by white people to make each other more aware of whose land we live on — and perhaps have said to yourself, "So?" Acknowledging a debt, or a theft, is one thing: it's just lip-service if there's no follow-through.
I'm not giving back my two wooded, inaccessible, hillside acres that once were Cayuga Nation hunting ground, but I will continue to make modest but tangible efforts toward reparations. I urge others to do the same.
Someone in their '80s at the top of their game? Inconceivable!
I watched "A Place in the Sun" sometime last spring. That picture is glorious. I started reading the Drieser-it didn't hit for me at all. That movie though, yikes. Talk about a guy
committed to telling big stories in a common medium. I haven't seen Giant in years. It always made me think about a middle-aged James Dean and what that would have been like. I suspect we really missed out.
I look at Rotten Tomatoes and drill down to reviews that look interesting. I seldom find a good review on there, even among the professionals. I come to REBID and I read the film reviews here. I've never read a bad one here.
I worked for a giant nursery that had locations in Michigan, Tennessee and Oklahoma. All of them depended on migrant labor, usually Mexican. Tennessee and Michigan treated their migrants like shit. This was reflected in the quality of the product. The Oklahoma staff treated the migrants like equals. The product looked great. There was a real feeling of the united cause and brotherhood among the Mexicans and Anglos. Oh Lord,Kumbaya.
As I got to know them I realized one fundamental fact. The Mexicans the Anglos all hated the fuck out of native Americans with an fervent undying hatred.
Ain't that America?
Great review. Is this a must see at the theater, or do you think we can screen it on a decent TV at home?
Great review, much appreciated. The setting in the photo up top is fascinating. Everything outside the giant windows looks like it might have been CGI, or if not, then Scorsese had some budget.
Who do I believe, Roy or the Daily Mail? Because the DM is saying KFM is getting roundly panned everywhere, on account of wokeness. Of course if you click thru, the article acknowledges far more raves and mixed reviews than pans, and those being from obscure publications. Nevertheless, when the water cooler chat turns to Scorsese’s latest, you have your talking point, even if you were never going to see it anyway.
Sounds like a movie I have to see. Hasn’t opened here in the desert but since it’s been 100+ every afternoon, we’ve been in the theater: Eras, Expend4bles, Oppenheimer. It was those or Halloween horrorshows. Having a wide-ranging taste, from schlock to art, is good, right? Right? Anyway, the options won’t be any better back home next month, but maybe Killers will be available as we drive through Oklahoma, if they don’t ban it for making whipipo uncomfortable.
Interesting take. Of course I miss a lot, my mind goes off on tangents about the craft, particularly the colors. Teal is the color key for that movie. Everything else plays off of it. And the acting. I am more inclined to like films in which I don't notice the acting. I'm not saying I didn't like the movie at this point, but the acting was very, very noticeable, in a very, very heavy way. DiCaprio makes some weighty faces, very weighty. De Niro too. I've done some study of the Osage and have been out there a few times working on a project in which they play a part. There's a section about them in "The Dawn of Everything" as well, which follows them way back in prehistory. They are much more interesting than they are portrayed in the movie. But that's ok. The film is not really all that much about them, though it gives many a respectful nod, and I trust it's pretty accurate for the small slice of time portrayed in the story. But no, it's an oft told tale of petty criminals doing bad things and getting caught, made by some of the most highly skilled professionals in the field. It's always interesting to see how the prestige filmmakers approach the artistic challenges presented by the story.
Thanks Roy, for the incisive summary. Though, "Leonardo DiCaprio has the guts and skill" is an understatement. Leo's thespian range and his ability to adopt an impenetrable, completely foreign persona are astounding.
I'm confused. Uncle Earnest is whose uncle? Just kidding! I'll be a monkey's and more fun than a barrel of 'em! I'm surprised you didn't comment on the fine threads in this flick. You describe what folks are wearing in detail in your own pieces. I think the costumes in this movie help create the vibe, although I have only seen the ads and the trailer as yet.
Thanks, Roy. Scorsese is my favorite director so of course I’ll be seeing this soon.
I love Goodfellas, it’s in my top five films, and one of the most frightening scenes is the one you mention, where DeNiro’s character solicitously, almost paternally, directs Karen Hill down the street into the shop where she would be murdered or at least abducted to put pressure on Henry. Just the casualness of DeNiro’s duplicity makes it terrifying. I’m looking forward to seeing what he does with Hale.
Our exceptional heritage...
An old old fart theory: back when fPOTUS was starting up his Make America Great Again, I thought the early 1920s was what he had in mind: post-Palmer raids, post-racial riots, prohibition workarounds, the rise and legitimization of the KKK, the development of Jim Crow, and this: not just stealing Indian lands “gifted” to the conquered by the conquerors but this time trying to steal the resources under the land by any and all means.
You have surely noticed conscious efforts by white people to make each other more aware of whose land we live on — and perhaps have said to yourself, "So?" Acknowledging a debt, or a theft, is one thing: it's just lip-service if there's no follow-through.
I'm not giving back my two wooded, inaccessible, hillside acres that once were Cayuga Nation hunting ground, but I will continue to make modest but tangible efforts toward reparations. I urge others to do the same.
Someone in their '80s at the top of their game? Inconceivable!
I watched "A Place in the Sun" sometime last spring. That picture is glorious. I started reading the Drieser-it didn't hit for me at all. That movie though, yikes. Talk about a guy
committed to telling big stories in a common medium. I haven't seen Giant in years. It always made me think about a middle-aged James Dean and what that would have been like. I suspect we really missed out.
I look at Rotten Tomatoes and drill down to reviews that look interesting. I seldom find a good review on there, even among the professionals. I come to REBID and I read the film reviews here. I've never read a bad one here.
I worked for a giant nursery that had locations in Michigan, Tennessee and Oklahoma. All of them depended on migrant labor, usually Mexican. Tennessee and Michigan treated their migrants like shit. This was reflected in the quality of the product. The Oklahoma staff treated the migrants like equals. The product looked great. There was a real feeling of the united cause and brotherhood among the Mexicans and Anglos. Oh Lord,Kumbaya.
As I got to know them I realized one fundamental fact. The Mexicans the Anglos all hated the fuck out of native Americans with an fervent undying hatred.
Ain't that America?
Great review. Is this a must see at the theater, or do you think we can screen it on a decent TV at home?
Great review, much appreciated. The setting in the photo up top is fascinating. Everything outside the giant windows looks like it might have been CGI, or if not, then Scorsese had some budget.
Who do I believe, Roy or the Daily Mail? Because the DM is saying KFM is getting roundly panned everywhere, on account of wokeness. Of course if you click thru, the article acknowledges far more raves and mixed reviews than pans, and those being from obscure publications. Nevertheless, when the water cooler chat turns to Scorsese’s latest, you have your talking point, even if you were never going to see it anyway.
Sounds like a movie I have to see. Hasn’t opened here in the desert but since it’s been 100+ every afternoon, we’ve been in the theater: Eras, Expend4bles, Oppenheimer. It was those or Halloween horrorshows. Having a wide-ranging taste, from schlock to art, is good, right? Right? Anyway, the options won’t be any better back home next month, but maybe Killers will be available as we drive through Oklahoma, if they don’t ban it for making whipipo uncomfortable.
(Periodic reminder that the other oil-related scandal, Teapot Dome, was happening at the same time.)
I am so hungry to see this film, but it will have to wait for another couple of weeks. Thanks for ramping up my anticipation!
Read the first graf, but the rest'll have to wait till after I see the movie. I like to go in as much of a clean slate as possible.
Interesting take. Of course I miss a lot, my mind goes off on tangents about the craft, particularly the colors. Teal is the color key for that movie. Everything else plays off of it. And the acting. I am more inclined to like films in which I don't notice the acting. I'm not saying I didn't like the movie at this point, but the acting was very, very noticeable, in a very, very heavy way. DiCaprio makes some weighty faces, very weighty. De Niro too. I've done some study of the Osage and have been out there a few times working on a project in which they play a part. There's a section about them in "The Dawn of Everything" as well, which follows them way back in prehistory. They are much more interesting than they are portrayed in the movie. But that's ok. The film is not really all that much about them, though it gives many a respectful nod, and I trust it's pretty accurate for the small slice of time portrayed in the story. But no, it's an oft told tale of petty criminals doing bad things and getting caught, made by some of the most highly skilled professionals in the field. It's always interesting to see how the prestige filmmakers approach the artistic challenges presented by the story.
Thanks Roy, for the incisive summary. Though, "Leonardo DiCaprio has the guts and skill" is an understatement. Leo's thespian range and his ability to adopt an impenetrable, completely foreign persona are astounding.
Ohs-cah !
I'm confused. Uncle Earnest is whose uncle? Just kidding! I'll be a monkey's and more fun than a barrel of 'em! I'm surprised you didn't comment on the fine threads in this flick. You describe what folks are wearing in detail in your own pieces. I think the costumes in this movie help create the vibe, although I have only seen the ads and the trailer as yet.