Very well said. Someone said on twitter, and it *immediately* rang completely true, the white guys who are Trump’s most ardent supporters (rally attendees, truck and boat parades, etc.) are the same guys who believe the best time of their lives was being a bully in high school. I mean think about it – that Venn diagram is probably almost a single circle.
And the MAGAts have subsisted so exclusively on a diet of Own The Libs for four years, now when they see us happy they think it means we are de facto mocking them. And when we *DO* mock them, they’re mad because we’re so much funnier than they are. We can’t win … EXCEPT WE JUST DID, LOL!
My thinking is that Trump will flee the country with as much money as he can scrounge rather than risk the humiliation of being subject to court trials and prison; and that slinking back to Florida in defeat would feel nearly as unbearable to him. And I think it is actually better for the country that he do so: better to let him become a disgraced and impotent memory to his people than be martyred by vengeful liberals who have better things to do (like repair the country).
Azerbaijan is acceptably corrupt & fascist, plus he opened a hotel there. I see that in his future, leaving his spawn to succumb to their own prosecutions...
If Gore Vidal writes our future, I foresee Trump causing us problems by getting himself proclaimed President of Azerbaijan. Maybe Junior challenges Hunter to a duel. Ivanka evades prosecution by living at sea on a retired Soviet aircraft carrier, and becomes queen of a libertarian seasteader nation -- well, maybe that last bit is more Neal Stephenson.
Something occurred to me last night while I was chatting with my youngest brother: George H W Bush. Who ever says his name anymore? He was the one GOP president of the past 40 years with anything resembling competence or awareness. He was also a one-term president. A loser. A sucker. A chump.
The GOP's Will to Power cannot abide losers & suckers & chumps. The swampy storm of cognitive dissonance within that side's hearts (spits) must be mighty at this stage. They knew he was a scumbag & a grifter & a cheat -- but they imagined him as a winner.
Winning has been thoroughly repudiated at this stage. Even Fox's more mainstream personae know this. Trump (probably) will prove to be a one-term president. At least as long as his lawyers continue to file such wretchedly transparent garbage lawsuits.
Listen, if he'd managed to actually pull off the assassination of Reagan, I might have voted for him for a second term. But he fucked it up. Who the hell lets Judy Woodruff screw up that kind of high level plot?
OBL was the black sheep of the family not because he was a terrorist -- there's the rumors about Saudi, mmm, complicity in 9/11 -- but because the rest of the family was tight with the House of Sand. So OBL's niece is a Trumpie makes perfect sense.
In my relatively limited experience with the GOP base, they're envious (of something of a fantasy), resentful, angry at their entitlement being disrespected. A piece of shit, a sociopath like Donnie doesn't need substance, just an attitude and the right spew of shit to satisfy them.
A piece in the Times last week worked as a reminder that one of the great (JK) things in Donnie's tax cut bill is that the cuts for the wealthy are forever, the cuts for the little people have sunset provisions.
And Jane Mayer had a lovely piece in The New Yorker last week about Donnie's possible futures. Presumption is that SCOTUS won't give Donnie the win. One of things she discusses is the possibility (or likelihood?) of a pardon for the Don. But LOL; Dunno that the kids can get pardon or at least to the extent that state officials can't touch them.
And speaking of the corporate media, the Times is surely sending a message: Said Donnie lied using the L word the other day, and the headline the other day -- Biden Beats Trump. Beats is a brutal word by the Times' standards. (Maybe Biden Trumps Trump would have been more elegant?) So it seems the Powers That Be are through with Donnie -- he can't do enough good for them now that's worth keeping him around -- but the party leaders, such as it is, aren't there yet.
BTW: If acknowledging the reality on the ground is a reference to the peace treaties with Israel, well, it's a tell how bogus they are. Not a single signatory ever went to war with Israel or was any legitimate military threat to Israel. As for all the business opportunities, I dunno. And if the reference is to stepping back from fucking around in Syria and Iraq, eh, I do't know that the retreats, as it were, are all that significant. And re: troop reduction in Germany and Afghanistan: The former was limited and, well, we're still making a mess in Afghanistan. One might say that he was allowed to do what he wanted with national security matters as long as it was minor and insignificant. And then there's the North Korea debacle.
But props to the painted turd for helping to show how fucked up the nation is. Can't fix a big problem without understanding it. So thanks to Donnie for that.
My 2024 marker is on Lindsay. He’s got the spittle-flecked angry white guy act down cold, and is way better at it than guys like Hawley or Cotton, perhaps because he’s been acting his whole life for...other reasons. Plus in private he can turn on the charm for the press, we know this from the last go-round. He’s already positioning himself for the run imo. But we’ll see.
I agree. Graham has neither spine nor feck, most recently evidenced by his support for the Orange Clown's stolen election charade. He always reminds me of TV Lassie's young master Timmy, especially since he still oddly looks like a tweeny Jon Provost. In my version, Lindsey/Timmy and Lassie don't so much save the baby down the well as they are responsible for putting it there.
I can see the Trumpier Trumpists all trumping each other out trying to be Trump and Mr Graham left standing. I'd in fact welcome that, since a good chunk of the Trumping-at-the-bit bitches are such that they won't vote for him because he's named 'Lindsay' and even some of the ones not as down on gays still 'hate f-gs',—sometimes he acts as if he reads.
Also, the only reason Lady G won is that Feinstein gave him legitimacy by hugging him & complimenting him, so anybody potentially turned off by him could argue respectability. Also SC voters seem to be racist as fuck. At least they didn't elect an actual Nazi like NC did...
Trump and his crew of crackheads are planning on fight-fight-fighting the election through the courts, no matter how stupid that fight might seem. But as important, Trump is planning on doing rallies around the country. He will be reading the obituaries of people who died but supposedly voted, thus "proving" the massive fraud that has illegally denied him victory.
My guess is that Trump will continue to hold rallies for the foreseeable future. Those rallies are great fundraising vehicles and his supporters buy up all the Trump crap for sale, pay for tickets, and then hand over "support" checks. Rallies also provide Trump with the constant flow of adulation across his gills that he needs to survive. And rallies also allow him to incite his followers.
He, and they, will eventually fade. Would that he finds himself reduced to addressing the ballroom in the Minot Holiday Inn Express! But until then, he will be a pebble in America's shoe and a threat to democracy.
I wish I were sanguine, but there is merit in the idea that now people don't have to fear him, they'll stop taking his IOUs. And with COVID restrictions likely to multiply, there is a strong public heath argument against holding planned gatherings without limitation (not holding my breath on the last one tho).
This is the reason we've got to prosecute all the actual crimes. And by we, I guess I mean SDNY. And by prosecute I mean imprison and impoverish. The Patrick Bateman son and the social climby daughter will seem a lot less appealing as 2024 candidates if the banks are ripping up the carpet and carrying out the chairs from every Trump property. And the bossman himself will face an impossible choice: Either shut up about the ongoing court cases, or what you say at the rally will be used against you in the proceedings.
I'm trying to forget for now that the GOP majority on SCOTUS is ready and willing to toss the will of the people for Donnie given the slightest opportunity.
Love this one, Roy, would like to share with my tiny audience.
Been telling people for four years that wasting their time on The Boy King was useless, that he was irredeemably and awe-inspiringly awful; it was their friends and neighbors that needed addressing, and you've put it beautifully as usual. Thanks as always.
In “Race and Reunion” David Blight showed how the urge to reconcile with Confederates led to acceptance of Jim Crow and the abandonment of Blacks who needed Federal support in their quest for equality. This country was unable to excise the racism and hate that produced the Civil War, in fact it welcomed it back into the Union. I hope Biden knows this, or if not, someone (Harris?) fills him in. This knowledge should dictate how he moves the government to support the victims of American bigotry and hatred, not succor the bigots and haters who put Trump and all the other Republican assholes in office.
I'm really hoping Harris will talk him out of some of his more useless urges to compromise. Considering the unfair heavy lift it is for democrats to win a presidency even without the voter suppression, they have a mandate. They have an overwhelming mandate, seven million plus votes? They need to act like it.
Not to mention, dithering while pursuing a mirage of compromise helps no one and cripples you at the polls in the next election. We all know McConnell isn’t going to compromise or help in any way, so ignore him and do what you can in every other area until he drags his withered carcass to the table with something real to offer.
Thinking Harris is the perfect person right now--graduate of an institution founded after the Civil War, in the middle of DC, to educate freed slaves, by a man who lost his right arm fighting for the Union.
I think the deplorables first got their opening to be non-logical intransigent opposeniks and haters when Frank Luntz's language guide was so eagerly utilized by Newt Gingrich (who could have been a political role model for Drumpf, so corrupt and immoral was he).
And so, cognitive dissonance now being their state-of-mind preference, a Tucker Carlson/ Noor bin Ladin ticket could be just the fit for the neo Gopers.
THe GOP will continue to descend into a party of two parts: Reaganite, right wing oligarchs and ideologues on the one hand and a surging QAnon paranoid, conspiracy drenched wing. This will cripple the party's ability to fashion a coherent and appealing message to the majority of voters and continue to make the GOP a rural, regional party.
“a rural, regional party” indifferent to the wishes of the majority of voters owing to its baked-in structural advantage under the Constitution. Half the country’s voters have proclaimed themselves feral.
And QAnon will devour the GOP. It’ll be the innards, not the wings.
I like how Pfizer just came out with the vaccine now that Trump is gone. That's just cracking me up.
Some good analysis and a nice dose of schadenfreude to start my Monday. I'm so looking forward to not having to look at the cheeto's greasy orange face all the time. I could never stand listening to him or watching him talk. Thank the universe for that.
Yes! But he's still got his greasy little cheeto hands on the levers of government for the next 10 weeks or so and we all know he's gonna try to pull everything down around him. And his followers are just nuts and I mean that literally.
138 fucking firearms?!?! WTF dude, you can only shoot one at a time. They're out there, they're pissed and hopefully they're all as dumb as this piece of shit.
Back from my third Covid test. No symptoms, and obviously hoping for a negative. But I may have been exposed at a sad family event. My beloved mother in law passed away, and it so happened that the final signature of her life was on a ballot—a vote for Biden/Harris. I'm happy this worked out for all of us, and for Margaret.
A zillion heart-clicks! As a benign narcissist in training, and since I've been saying these things for years, I'm naturally in complete agreement! Many New Yorkers pegged Trump as a scumbag at first sight, which made it all the more insane to watch him attract "admirers" like so many flies to shit. Trump's schtick is rooted in the practice initiated by Newt Gingrich, Limbaugh, and the Murdoch empire of using the most inflammatory language possible to demonize the enemy, and not even so much lying as just saying ANYTHING; this was Trump's training ground -- no policies or thought, just lunatic opinion. (Remember Gingrich's "Language, a Key Mechanism of Control"?) So when Trump prattles on with something like "Biden will destroy your suburbs, set America on fire, take away Christmas, close your favorite churches and chain restaurants, make your laundry smell..." he's just covering the microphone in slime that doesn't even have to make sense. It's why Newt is still such a big fan.
Very well said. Someone said on twitter, and it *immediately* rang completely true, the white guys who are Trump’s most ardent supporters (rally attendees, truck and boat parades, etc.) are the same guys who believe the best time of their lives was being a bully in high school. I mean think about it – that Venn diagram is probably almost a single circle.
And the MAGAts have subsisted so exclusively on a diet of Own The Libs for four years, now when they see us happy they think it means we are de facto mocking them. And when we *DO* mock them, they’re mad because we’re so much funnier than they are. We can’t win … EXCEPT WE JUST DID, LOL!
Our Long National Nightmare Of White Spite In The White House is almost over.
oh lol gurl -- one thing USian history has taught us is that there is no end to white spite
Enjoy MST3K’s “Yipes Stripes”
https://youtu.be/XzyCAsBZeto
“White Flight” 🎵
Till the next time?
My thinking is that Trump will flee the country with as much money as he can scrounge rather than risk the humiliation of being subject to court trials and prison; and that slinking back to Florida in defeat would feel nearly as unbearable to him. And I think it is actually better for the country that he do so: better to let him become a disgraced and impotent memory to his people than be martyred by vengeful liberals who have better things to do (like repair the country).
Azerbaijan is acceptably corrupt & fascist, plus he opened a hotel there. I see that in his future, leaving his spawn to succumb to their own prosecutions...
Azerbaijan?! Perfect — that's even better than Fritters, Alabama!
Turkey. A country he can spell. Can’t Tweet from Azurepajamas, Asyourbiden, Assorbyejim...
Absorbinestan
I think there is a Fritters there.
If Gore Vidal writes our future, I foresee Trump causing us problems by getting himself proclaimed President of Azerbaijan. Maybe Junior challenges Hunter to a duel. Ivanka evades prosecution by living at sea on a retired Soviet aircraft carrier, and becomes queen of a libertarian seasteader nation -- well, maybe that last bit is more Neal Stephenson.
Something occurred to me last night while I was chatting with my youngest brother: George H W Bush. Who ever says his name anymore? He was the one GOP president of the past 40 years with anything resembling competence or awareness. He was also a one-term president. A loser. A sucker. A chump.
The GOP's Will to Power cannot abide losers & suckers & chumps. The swampy storm of cognitive dissonance within that side's hearts (spits) must be mighty at this stage. They knew he was a scumbag & a grifter & a cheat -- but they imagined him as a winner.
Winning has been thoroughly repudiated at this stage. Even Fox's more mainstream personae know this. Trump (probably) will prove to be a one-term president. At least as long as his lawyers continue to file such wretchedly transparent garbage lawsuits.
A loser. Like Poppy Bush. Remember him?
Listen, if he'd managed to actually pull off the assassination of Reagan, I might have voted for him for a second term. But he fucked it up. Who the hell lets Judy Woodruff screw up that kind of high level plot?
Elder Bush was DOA as soon as he appeared on the Simpsons
"Good memoirs. Not great." I think about that line all the time.
"The prankster's bible" -- but really the introduction of Disco Stu was really the crowning moment of that episode
Donnie is very, very special. Look: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmZEr7yWEAMduV2.jpg:large
It’ll be Tucker Carlson running in 2024...
Good call.
Toward or away?
Here in Reddestneckistan the anger and confusion are strong..
ABC just announced tRump taking the show back on the road, with more rallies..
And in GA, loathsome turd, Rep. Rev.(Assoc. Pastor of the Chicopee Baptist) Doug Collins will be the GOP’s representative in the GA Recount..
Collins lost to the appalling harridan Kelly Loeffler..
He routinely speaks to militia/patriot groups with eliminationist language.
I hate that guy(my former congressman) as much as I hate my new one in NC Madison Cawthorn.
I’d like J Madison to do a ghostly visitation on him..
Andrew Yang is moving to Atlanta to rally the millennial entrepreneur vote for Warnock and Ossof. Victory is within our grasp!
In no particular order...
OBL was the black sheep of the family not because he was a terrorist -- there's the rumors about Saudi, mmm, complicity in 9/11 -- but because the rest of the family was tight with the House of Sand. So OBL's niece is a Trumpie makes perfect sense.
In my relatively limited experience with the GOP base, they're envious (of something of a fantasy), resentful, angry at their entitlement being disrespected. A piece of shit, a sociopath like Donnie doesn't need substance, just an attitude and the right spew of shit to satisfy them.
A piece in the Times last week worked as a reminder that one of the great (JK) things in Donnie's tax cut bill is that the cuts for the wealthy are forever, the cuts for the little people have sunset provisions.
And Jane Mayer had a lovely piece in The New Yorker last week about Donnie's possible futures. Presumption is that SCOTUS won't give Donnie the win. One of things she discusses is the possibility (or likelihood?) of a pardon for the Don. But LOL; Dunno that the kids can get pardon or at least to the extent that state officials can't touch them.
And speaking of the corporate media, the Times is surely sending a message: Said Donnie lied using the L word the other day, and the headline the other day -- Biden Beats Trump. Beats is a brutal word by the Times' standards. (Maybe Biden Trumps Trump would have been more elegant?) So it seems the Powers That Be are through with Donnie -- he can't do enough good for them now that's worth keeping him around -- but the party leaders, such as it is, aren't there yet.
BTW: If acknowledging the reality on the ground is a reference to the peace treaties with Israel, well, it's a tell how bogus they are. Not a single signatory ever went to war with Israel or was any legitimate military threat to Israel. As for all the business opportunities, I dunno. And if the reference is to stepping back from fucking around in Syria and Iraq, eh, I do't know that the retreats, as it were, are all that significant. And re: troop reduction in Germany and Afghanistan: The former was limited and, well, we're still making a mess in Afghanistan. One might say that he was allowed to do what he wanted with national security matters as long as it was minor and insignificant. And then there's the North Korea debacle.
But props to the painted turd for helping to show how fucked up the nation is. Can't fix a big problem without understanding it. So thanks to Donnie for that.
My 2024 marker is on Lindsay. He’s got the spittle-flecked angry white guy act down cold, and is way better at it than guys like Hawley or Cotton, perhaps because he’s been acting his whole life for...other reasons. Plus in private he can turn on the charm for the press, we know this from the last go-round. He’s already positioning himself for the run imo. But we’ll see.
Sorry, Lindsay's not a leader -- he was born to flunky.
I see a new dance craze among white people who can’t dance, “The Flunky Chicken.”
TikTok, are you ready for this?
I agree. Graham has neither spine nor feck, most recently evidenced by his support for the Orange Clown's stolen election charade. He always reminds me of TV Lassie's young master Timmy, especially since he still oddly looks like a tweeny Jon Provost. In my version, Lindsey/Timmy and Lassie don't so much save the baby down the well as they are responsible for putting it there.
I can see the Trumpier Trumpists all trumping each other out trying to be Trump and Mr Graham left standing. I'd in fact welcome that, since a good chunk of the Trumping-at-the-bit bitches are such that they won't vote for him because he's named 'Lindsay' and even some of the ones not as down on gays still 'hate f-gs',—sometimes he acts as if he reads.
I can see that, if he wasn't gay af. But everyone who votes for him knows he's gay af, and they tolerate it now, but not as president.
If a nation can elect a Trump, it can elect a closeted gay man.
Also, the only reason Lady G won is that Feinstein gave him legitimacy by hugging him & complimenting him, so anybody potentially turned off by him could argue respectability. Also SC voters seem to be racist as fuck. At least they didn't elect an actual Nazi like NC did...
I don't think so.
Trump is both refusing to concede AND intending to run again in 2024.
I will take this opportunity to repeat my chaacterisation of Trump's speeches as 'word-flecked spittle'.
Trump and his crew of crackheads are planning on fight-fight-fighting the election through the courts, no matter how stupid that fight might seem. But as important, Trump is planning on doing rallies around the country. He will be reading the obituaries of people who died but supposedly voted, thus "proving" the massive fraud that has illegally denied him victory.
My guess is that Trump will continue to hold rallies for the foreseeable future. Those rallies are great fundraising vehicles and his supporters buy up all the Trump crap for sale, pay for tickets, and then hand over "support" checks. Rallies also provide Trump with the constant flow of adulation across his gills that he needs to survive. And rallies also allow him to incite his followers.
He, and they, will eventually fade. Would that he finds himself reduced to addressing the ballroom in the Minot Holiday Inn Express! But until then, he will be a pebble in America's shoe and a threat to democracy.
I wish I were sanguine, but there is merit in the idea that now people don't have to fear him, they'll stop taking his IOUs. And with COVID restrictions likely to multiply, there is a strong public heath argument against holding planned gatherings without limitation (not holding my breath on the last one tho).
I’d rather he were addressing his fellow inmates at Rikers Island.
This is the reason we've got to prosecute all the actual crimes. And by we, I guess I mean SDNY. And by prosecute I mean imprison and impoverish. The Patrick Bateman son and the social climby daughter will seem a lot less appealing as 2024 candidates if the banks are ripping up the carpet and carrying out the chairs from every Trump property. And the bossman himself will face an impossible choice: Either shut up about the ongoing court cases, or what you say at the rally will be used against you in the proceedings.
If it's in SDNY, it can be pardoned. Now, in state courts, it would be another matter.
I'm trying to forget for now that the GOP majority on SCOTUS is ready and willing to toss the will of the people for Donnie given the slightest opportunity.
Love this one, Roy, would like to share with my tiny audience.
Been telling people for four years that wasting their time on The Boy King was useless, that he was irredeemably and awe-inspiringly awful; it was their friends and neighbors that needed addressing, and you've put it beautifully as usual. Thanks as always.
I guess I should send you more money.
Thanks. And feel free!
Preach
In “Race and Reunion” David Blight showed how the urge to reconcile with Confederates led to acceptance of Jim Crow and the abandonment of Blacks who needed Federal support in their quest for equality. This country was unable to excise the racism and hate that produced the Civil War, in fact it welcomed it back into the Union. I hope Biden knows this, or if not, someone (Harris?) fills him in. This knowledge should dictate how he moves the government to support the victims of American bigotry and hatred, not succor the bigots and haters who put Trump and all the other Republican assholes in office.
I'm really hoping Harris will talk him out of some of his more useless urges to compromise. Considering the unfair heavy lift it is for democrats to win a presidency even without the voter suppression, they have a mandate. They have an overwhelming mandate, seven million plus votes? They need to act like it.
Not to mention, dithering while pursuing a mirage of compromise helps no one and cripples you at the polls in the next election. We all know McConnell isn’t going to compromise or help in any way, so ignore him and do what you can in every other area until he drags his withered carcass to the table with something real to offer.
~4 million.
Thinking Harris is the perfect person right now--graduate of an institution founded after the Civil War, in the middle of DC, to educate freed slaves, by a man who lost his right arm fighting for the Union.
As an aside--her undergraduate years would have coordinated with the Disinvestment From (then-apartheid) South Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinvestment_from_South_Africa
I think the deplorables first got their opening to be non-logical intransigent opposeniks and haters when Frank Luntz's language guide was so eagerly utilized by Newt Gingrich (who could have been a political role model for Drumpf, so corrupt and immoral was he).
And so, cognitive dissonance now being their state-of-mind preference, a Tucker Carlson/ Noor bin Ladin ticket could be just the fit for the neo Gopers.
I should have read all the way down first. Gingrich is like a Founder of our awful world, and he just won't go away.
It's true. Drop a dumptruck on Newt and Rupert in 1993 and the world today is so much more functional and decent.
THe GOP will continue to descend into a party of two parts: Reaganite, right wing oligarchs and ideologues on the one hand and a surging QAnon paranoid, conspiracy drenched wing. This will cripple the party's ability to fashion a coherent and appealing message to the majority of voters and continue to make the GOP a rural, regional party.
“a rural, regional party” indifferent to the wishes of the majority of voters owing to its baked-in structural advantage under the Constitution. Half the country’s voters have proclaimed themselves feral.
And QAnon will devour the GOP. It’ll be the innards, not the wings.
I like how Pfizer just came out with the vaccine now that Trump is gone. That's just cracking me up.
Some good analysis and a nice dose of schadenfreude to start my Monday. I'm so looking forward to not having to look at the cheeto's greasy orange face all the time. I could never stand listening to him or watching him talk. Thank the universe for that.
I know! Isn't it nice how he's about to become completely irrelevant?
Yes! But he's still got his greasy little cheeto hands on the levers of government for the next 10 weeks or so and we all know he's gonna try to pull everything down around him. And his followers are just nuts and I mean that literally.
Check this guy out:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/boogaloo-loving-ca-teacher-faces-trial-for-threatening-health-official-over/
138 fucking firearms?!?! WTF dude, you can only shoot one at a time. They're out there, they're pissed and hopefully they're all as dumb as this piece of shit.
Back from my third Covid test. No symptoms, and obviously hoping for a negative. But I may have been exposed at a sad family event. My beloved mother in law passed away, and it so happened that the final signature of her life was on a ballot—a vote for Biden/Harris. I'm happy this worked out for all of us, and for Margaret.
A zillion heart-clicks! As a benign narcissist in training, and since I've been saying these things for years, I'm naturally in complete agreement! Many New Yorkers pegged Trump as a scumbag at first sight, which made it all the more insane to watch him attract "admirers" like so many flies to shit. Trump's schtick is rooted in the practice initiated by Newt Gingrich, Limbaugh, and the Murdoch empire of using the most inflammatory language possible to demonize the enemy, and not even so much lying as just saying ANYTHING; this was Trump's training ground -- no policies or thought, just lunatic opinion. (Remember Gingrich's "Language, a Key Mechanism of Control"?) So when Trump prattles on with something like "Biden will destroy your suburbs, set America on fire, take away Christmas, close your favorite churches and chain restaurants, make your laundry smell..." he's just covering the microphone in slime that doesn't even have to make sense. It's why Newt is still such a big fan.