Well, I'll be a... "John J. Miller is director of the Herbert H. Dow II Program in American Journalism at Hillsdale College and national correspondent for National Review." https://www.hillsdale.edu/faculty/john-miller/
I’ve long felt these private Christian colleges function as the midpoint in the Homeschool-To-Reactionary-Wingnut pipeline.
If you grow up hearing Fox blaring from the TV at your grandparents’ house and Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan podcasts playing at home, school is the only place you’d ever hear a different point of view. It’s why rightwing parents who don’t homeschool are getting elected to school boards and banning books. Knowledge is the enemy, and could derail the successful propagation of mini-MAGAs.
Indeed. Not just knowledge but reason. Remember, the 2012 Texas GOP platform expressly opposed the teaching of "critical thinking skills and similar programs" because such heretical education methods "have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."
Excellent point, I’d forgotten about that because it has been overshadowed by so many more recent fascist maneuvers. They’ve been telling us who they are for ages.
I was doubted? I'll have you know that ever since I became a reader of "Roy Edroso Breaks It Down" people immediately sense that I speak from authority, once they get over the shock of my general appearance.
Thankfully the (mainline) Lutheran college I attended was nothing like Hillsdale, or I would’ve fled and taken my tuition with me. There were plenty Young Republican types there, but plenty social justice types too, as well as people who came solely for the degree. It had particularly good programs in Pre-Med, Pre-Law, Elementary & Special Education, and Nursing.
Can't wait for the people here employed in Big Education's lefty socialist institutes to toss in their two rubles or yuan as the case may be.
In the mean time, occasionally I crack up over that part of conservative confession-by-projection in which they attribute to the left what they're actually doing. In the case here, the idea that our oligarchy is a leftist project, I mean, please. In this instance, I wonder (but don't really care) what pathology makes such a remark possible. Does the person pushing the point have any idea how profoundly full of shit they are? (Again: Don't care to know -- just asking the question, to coin a phrase.)
Too, also love the idea that the elite schools are much more than finishing schools for the elite's scion. Oh, sure, you can point to whatever you want to but given the decadent, simply stupid state of our leaders, one seriously has to wonder just how much educating the young scions actually are given.
I always figured the real value of a Harvard education was the hedge fund owned by your roommate's dad, which might provide some seed funding for your startup after you graduate. Rooming with the children of schoolteachers and cops at the land-grant state college ain't gonna get you that.
"This is the kind of stuff Kitchen says is opening her mind at Hillsdale, but I submit that if you’re hearing stuff like this on the regular and haven’t packed up and left in disgust, open-mindedness was not what you were after."
"In my admissions interview for Hillsdale, I praised Christopher Hitchens—a staunch and unapologetic atheist — as one of my intellectual heroes.... And they wanted me anyway."
Remember how the People's Front for the Liberation of Judea vetted Brian when he applied for membership?
"How much do you hate the Romans?"
"I... I really hate them!"
"OK, you're in."
Brian could have told them that he entirely rejected the dietary code of Orthodox Judaism and it wouldn't have mattered. And it similarly didn't matter if Kitchen had unorthodox opinions in theology or mathematics; as long as Hillsdale heard the magic words, "I really hate the liberals," she was in.
Geez. It's as if a Rachel Maddow fan, hammered into liberal submission by facts and reason, discovers the radiant diversity of thought of Alex Jones. ("I did wonder for a moment where they got all those crisis actors to play dead but then I realized I'd been brainwashed by liberals to oppose child labor.")
It should come as no surprise that Hillsdale's president, Larry Arnn, an early Trump suck-up who's made sure that the place is a Trumpist incubator, was a co-founder of the Claremont Institute, currently a fascist freak farm promoting civil war.
John “Mary Roush” Lott and Roger Kimball, those two should be shouting from street corners at passing commuters. Also, I thought George Soros was Emmanuel Goldstein. Once again, the projection is the point.
John Lott has been caught repeatedly falsifying data, impersonating ("sock-pupetting") supporters of his falsified research, and generally being a dishonest broker in all matters great and small. Thus, his opinion is much sought-after and he deserves to have his voice heard in the discourse because everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt and a second (third, fourth, fifth . . .) chance, no?
On the other hand, Al Gore lives in a house, which proves that global warming is a lie. Therefore, Al Gore must be shut out from the discourse forever.
Despite the tinsel Kitchen draped on it, Hillsdale College still sounds like nothing more than a reactionary a$$hole factory, that is, a dump that turns out brainwashed fanatics dedicated to making the good ol' USA ever more miserable. The woods are full of joints like this and I piss on them all.
I grew up about 10 mi from a Baptist College. The ladies all wore dresses and the young men wore slacks and a polo shirt. Everyone was white. A good friend of mine was dating a girl from there . I asked him" How's that working
out for you ?"
He said" "You'd be surprised."
Evidently private Baptist College is where a certain class of Rich Burgher sends their problem children to school. His girlfriend had blown the football team in High School. Every time I saw her she was drunk. She dropped out her sophomore year.
"Christopher Hitchens is a hero of mine, and yet this school of devout, reactionary Christian believers welcomed me. Can you believe it?"
"Oh, yeah? Well get this--I am, as you can see, a sheep. I was born and raised a sheep and identify to this day as a sheep. And yet an entire pack of wolves welcomed ME!"
"I'll play up the atheism angle so my fervent desire to kill Muslims will seem slightly less Islamaphobic" is just a variation on the "I'm equally prejudiced against all people" defense.
A professor told her she should speak up more in class? Wow, that is remarkable. I don't imagine any professor anywhere other than Hillsdale has ever said such a thing.
Myself, I've got 50 minutes to fill, and 30 minutes of student discussion is 30 minutes less of material I've got to prep. Knock yourselves out kids, you're payin' for it.
As a now retired postal worker I do miss sending the Imprimis through the letter sorting machines. It is as large as allowed for letter mail, kinda floppy, and inevitably jammed up in the machine. I used no finesse yanking them out of the belts and spent time perusing the mangled ones, just for the yikes effect. I haven't seen that wingnut rag since last fall. Thanks for the update, Roy. 😉
And then there was that pesky scandal about extramarital sex and maybe murder? Sounds kinda biblical, so maybe it’s ok.
"Thou Shalt Not Admit Adultery."
You just know Hillsdale is a hotbed of depravity.
Much like the Bible.
John J. Miller of National Review was on the case in 1999! Whatever happened to him? https://www.nationalreview.com/1999/11/horror-hillsdale-john-j-miller/
Well, I'll be a... "John J. Miller is director of the Herbert H. Dow II Program in American Journalism at Hillsdale College and national correspondent for National Review." https://www.hillsdale.edu/faculty/john-miller/
LOL
I’ve long felt these private Christian colleges function as the midpoint in the Homeschool-To-Reactionary-Wingnut pipeline.
If you grow up hearing Fox blaring from the TV at your grandparents’ house and Ben Shapiro and Joe Rogan podcasts playing at home, school is the only place you’d ever hear a different point of view. It’s why rightwing parents who don’t homeschool are getting elected to school boards and banning books. Knowledge is the enemy, and could derail the successful propagation of mini-MAGAs.
Indeed. Not just knowledge but reason. Remember, the 2012 Texas GOP platform expressly opposed the teaching of "critical thinking skills and similar programs" because such heretical education methods "have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."
Excellent point, I’d forgotten about that because it has been overshadowed by so many more recent fascist maneuvers. They’ve been telling us who they are for ages.
They flood the system with sewage, enlarged by media echoing.
I shouldn't have doubted you! https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html
I was doubted? I'll have you know that ever since I became a reader of "Roy Edroso Breaks It Down" people immediately sense that I speak from authority, once they get over the shock of my general appearance.
Thankfully the (mainline) Lutheran college I attended was nothing like Hillsdale, or I would’ve fled and taken my tuition with me. There were plenty Young Republican types there, but plenty social justice types too, as well as people who came solely for the degree. It had particularly good programs in Pre-Med, Pre-Law, Elementary & Special Education, and Nursing.
Knowledge has been seen as an existential threat for conservatives since at least the 80s.
" eschews federal funds so it can refuse to follow Title IX -"
Wonder how much tuition gets paid with Federal Student loan money?
"Well, that was gummint money, until it made its way into my bank account, and now it's MY money"
Can't wait for the people here employed in Big Education's lefty socialist institutes to toss in their two rubles or yuan as the case may be.
In the mean time, occasionally I crack up over that part of conservative confession-by-projection in which they attribute to the left what they're actually doing. In the case here, the idea that our oligarchy is a leftist project, I mean, please. In this instance, I wonder (but don't really care) what pathology makes such a remark possible. Does the person pushing the point have any idea how profoundly full of shit they are? (Again: Don't care to know -- just asking the question, to coin a phrase.)
Too, also love the idea that the elite schools are much more than finishing schools for the elite's scion. Oh, sure, you can point to whatever you want to but given the decadent, simply stupid state of our leaders, one seriously has to wonder just how much educating the young scions actually are given.
I always figured the real value of a Harvard education was the hedge fund owned by your roommate's dad, which might provide some seed funding for your startup after you graduate. Rooming with the children of schoolteachers and cops at the land-grant state college ain't gonna get you that.
Every accusation a confession!
"This is the kind of stuff Kitchen says is opening her mind at Hillsdale, but I submit that if you’re hearing stuff like this on the regular and haven’t packed up and left in disgust, open-mindedness was not what you were after."
Jane's Kitchen-Sink Logic
"In my admissions interview for Hillsdale, I praised Christopher Hitchens—a staunch and unapologetic atheist — as one of my intellectual heroes.... And they wanted me anyway."
Remember how the People's Front for the Liberation of Judea vetted Brian when he applied for membership?
"How much do you hate the Romans?"
"I... I really hate them!"
"OK, you're in."
Brian could have told them that he entirely rejected the dietary code of Orthodox Judaism and it wouldn't have mattered. And it similarly didn't matter if Kitchen had unorthodox opinions in theology or mathematics; as long as Hillsdale heard the magic words, "I really hate the liberals," she was in.
Not only is this a very valid point, but any Monty Python reference gets an enthusiastic upvote from me, LOL
or the magic words, "We can pay full tuition."
"I've got cash -"
"OH MY GOD YES! uhhh, I mean, welcome to Hillsdale"
Geez. It's as if a Rachel Maddow fan, hammered into liberal submission by facts and reason, discovers the radiant diversity of thought of Alex Jones. ("I did wonder for a moment where they got all those crisis actors to play dead but then I realized I'd been brainwashed by liberals to oppose child labor.")
It should come as no surprise that Hillsdale's president, Larry Arnn, an early Trump suck-up who's made sure that the place is a Trumpist incubator, was a co-founder of the Claremont Institute, currently a fascist freak farm promoting civil war.
John “Mary Roush” Lott and Roger Kimball, those two should be shouting from street corners at passing commuters. Also, I thought George Soros was Emmanuel Goldstein. Once again, the projection is the point.
John Lott has been caught repeatedly falsifying data, impersonating ("sock-pupetting") supporters of his falsified research, and generally being a dishonest broker in all matters great and small. Thus, his opinion is much sought-after and he deserves to have his voice heard in the discourse because everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt and a second (third, fourth, fifth . . .) chance, no?
On the other hand, Al Gore lives in a house, which proves that global warming is a lie. Therefore, Al Gore must be shut out from the discourse forever.
You have absorbed the lessons of psuedoconservatism well.
Dishonest brokers are fine, as long as they're dishonest in the service of the greater good of conservatism.
Despite the tinsel Kitchen draped on it, Hillsdale College still sounds like nothing more than a reactionary a$$hole factory, that is, a dump that turns out brainwashed fanatics dedicated to making the good ol' USA ever more miserable. The woods are full of joints like this and I piss on them all.
Was gonna say '2 marks for “Donald Trump is the Emmanuel Goldstein...of the movement”, but then I realized...
Damn. I feel bad* when somebody that anti-reason jots down something amusing enough to call attention to it...
*not really
I grew up about 10 mi from a Baptist College. The ladies all wore dresses and the young men wore slacks and a polo shirt. Everyone was white. A good friend of mine was dating a girl from there . I asked him" How's that working
out for you ?"
He said" "You'd be surprised."
Evidently private Baptist College is where a certain class of Rich Burgher sends their problem children to school. His girlfriend had blown the football team in High School. Every time I saw her she was drunk. She dropped out her sophomore year.
Figure Hillsdale draws upon the same demographic.
"Hot Young Baptists" is a teensploitation movie waiting to be made.
"Christopher Hitchens is a hero of mine, and yet this school of devout, reactionary Christian believers welcomed me. Can you believe it?"
"Oh, yeah? Well get this--I am, as you can see, a sheep. I was born and raised a sheep and identify to this day as a sheep. And yet an entire pack of wolves welcomed ME!"
It's probably because Hitchens was all in for our wonderful adventure in Iraq, that she's a big fan.
"I'll play up the atheism angle so my fervent desire to kill Muslims will seem slightly less Islamaphobic" is just a variation on the "I'm equally prejudiced against all people" defense.
A professor told her she should speak up more in class? Wow, that is remarkable. I don't imagine any professor anywhere other than Hillsdale has ever said such a thing.
Myself, I've got 50 minutes to fill, and 30 minutes of student discussion is 30 minutes less of material I've got to prep. Knock yourselves out kids, you're payin' for it.
I want to hear more about the curriculum. Is there a "Do Your Own Research 101" where students learn the value of YouTube videos as Primary Documents?
YouTubes are Supporting Documents. The Bible is the one, the only Primary Document.
As a now retired postal worker I do miss sending the Imprimis through the letter sorting machines. It is as large as allowed for letter mail, kinda floppy, and inevitably jammed up in the machine. I used no finesse yanking them out of the belts and spent time perusing the mangled ones, just for the yikes effect. I haven't seen that wingnut rag since last fall. Thanks for the update, Roy. 😉
Has anyone done background on "Jane Kitchen"? Her piece has a processed flavor.