Thanks for subjecting yourself to Holler Hell, Roy. I’ve heard the movie is hot garbage.
Just want to add that someone on twitter -- referencing Vance’s elitism and condescension -- referred to the movie as “hillwilliam elegy” and I still haven’t stopped laughing.
live 40 miles northeast of the town that Hillbilly Elegy asshole wrote about. It’s not a great place but not nearly the hellscape dude made it out to be. The Black neighborhoods 30 miles northwest of there in West Dayton and 30 miles due south of there in the Over the Rhine district in Cincinnati are certainly worse when it comes to crime, poverty and lack of opportunity. Nobody writes them any elegies though. Maybe Paul Laurence Dunbar. 120 years ago. I wonder if he had a NY Times bestseller?
So many reasons to find this offensive but, nah, love it anyway.
(Part of the reason for potential guilt is my new old fart theory that having a clue is actually an unaffordable luxury for many if not most people so, you know, mockery of them for their ignorance, stupidity, limitations must be somewhat limited. Or maybe not; still working on this.)
You know, I grew up poor myself. I was the kid from the trailer park, the guy who went to work after high school instead of off to college. Not sure how I managed to get through it without becoming twisted and selfish (a.k.a. conservative) but I apparently did.
So I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for ol' J.D. here. Sounds like he made his choice. Now he gets to live with it, just like the rest of us. Suck it up, snowflake.
This is amazing, Roy. What you have here is why the show/book is offensive. It's the "sons of the soil" glurge that Opie is hellbent on turning into the "sons of the blood and the soil". For a paycheck.
This is the "Triumphen des Willen" of the stupidest version of America...
A friend lent me “Hillbilly Elegy”: I read it quickly, as it was facile, and seemed intent on exonerating the folks with power, the Good folks, like Vance
As actual hillbilly (I don’t say “Mountain William”: if i want to be pretentious I’ll use 1$ words or quote, say, LaRochefocauld), I’ve watched the insular towns of the Southern mountains stagnate as they support governments that are killing them, with conservative policies..The Brightest go elsewhere, the government and businesses are now seen as hereditary, and anyone different must be run out. If you believe the upper crust or “local elites” are moral, observe what sentences the kids of the well off and connected get as opposed to workimg folks. They have conserved their power by making the economic downwards spiral into a dive, where a few thrive..
These folks have chosen to live in a social bubble where conforming to the local group is more important that facts, or any other opinion. Fox/right media, bad religion, and a GOP going deeper into crazy conspiracy world have made the bubble well nigh impenetrable.
The war on drugs and workers, and lying about who actually gets and survives on Government Transfer payments, 40 years of first the POWMIA scam and then the almighty NRA telling them “they’re going to come and take your guns and bibles and give everthing to BLM or Scary Antifa!” has become a literal article of faith.
You dun leff out the haound...
Thanks for subjecting yourself to Holler Hell, Roy. I’ve heard the movie is hot garbage.
Just want to add that someone on twitter -- referencing Vance’s elitism and condescension -- referred to the movie as “hillwilliam elegy” and I still haven’t stopped laughing.
Not to be pedantic, but I didn't read all 21 of the Aubrey/Maturin novels for nothing. Quite a few English idioms are nautical in origin.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cut_of_one%27s_jib
Quinoa fork, very helpful.
live 40 miles northeast of the town that Hillbilly Elegy asshole wrote about. It’s not a great place but not nearly the hellscape dude made it out to be. The Black neighborhoods 30 miles northwest of there in West Dayton and 30 miles due south of there in the Over the Rhine district in Cincinnati are certainly worse when it comes to crime, poverty and lack of opportunity. Nobody writes them any elegies though. Maybe Paul Laurence Dunbar. 120 years ago. I wonder if he had a NY Times bestseller?
So many reasons to find this offensive but, nah, love it anyway.
(Part of the reason for potential guilt is my new old fart theory that having a clue is actually an unaffordable luxury for many if not most people so, you know, mockery of them for their ignorance, stupidity, limitations must be somewhat limited. Or maybe not; still working on this.)
This is hilarious btw - I have been surrounded by these people my whole life. Spot on!
Wonderful, in the best tradition of “You’ve seen the book, now read the movie!”
Oh God. I wish I was there to clutch the sides of your head, Roy.
(But isn't it "KAIN-tuck"?)
Thanks for your send up. I’m wondering if they got Opie to direct as entree to a particular audience? So calculating does it all seem.
FYI—Im from Indiana. A good friend who lives in nearby Bloomington calls them hee-Billys.
You know, I grew up poor myself. I was the kid from the trailer park, the guy who went to work after high school instead of off to college. Not sure how I managed to get through it without becoming twisted and selfish (a.k.a. conservative) but I apparently did.
So I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for ol' J.D. here. Sounds like he made his choice. Now he gets to live with it, just like the rest of us. Suck it up, snowflake.
I'm so glad I don't ever have to consider seeing this movie now. This is all I need plus the quinoa fork and the fourth-wall bits. We all owe you.
This is amazing, Roy. What you have here is why the show/book is offensive. It's the "sons of the soil" glurge that Opie is hellbent on turning into the "sons of the blood and the soil". For a paycheck.
This is the "Triumphen des Willen" of the stupidest version of America...
Why you gotta go and bring the Funyuns into this? One of my momma's favorite food groups. No kidding. xo
A friend lent me “Hillbilly Elegy”: I read it quickly, as it was facile, and seemed intent on exonerating the folks with power, the Good folks, like Vance
As actual hillbilly (I don’t say “Mountain William”: if i want to be pretentious I’ll use 1$ words or quote, say, LaRochefocauld), I’ve watched the insular towns of the Southern mountains stagnate as they support governments that are killing them, with conservative policies..The Brightest go elsewhere, the government and businesses are now seen as hereditary, and anyone different must be run out. If you believe the upper crust or “local elites” are moral, observe what sentences the kids of the well off and connected get as opposed to workimg folks. They have conserved their power by making the economic downwards spiral into a dive, where a few thrive..
These folks have chosen to live in a social bubble where conforming to the local group is more important that facts, or any other opinion. Fox/right media, bad religion, and a GOP going deeper into crazy conspiracy world have made the bubble well nigh impenetrable.
The war on drugs and workers, and lying about who actually gets and survives on Government Transfer payments, 40 years of first the POWMIA scam and then the almighty NRA telling them “they’re going to come and take your guns and bibles and give everthing to BLM or Scary Antifa!” has become a literal article of faith.
This is the closest I will come to watching that movie. Thanks, again, for taking one for the team.