Don’t shut down during the early stages of a pandemic, don’t wear masks, don’t socially distance, don’t get the vaccine. And Covid-19 cases are dropping like a stone in largely Democratic areas where most people are vaccinated, and still rising in largely Republican areas where most people are not.
I understand the GOP thinks it can rig the electoral game so they can consistently win with a minority of votes, but they still have to get SOME votes so it seems counter-intuitive to support behavior that will kill off your own base. But who am I to criticize, LOL?
"But the people attacking Fauci aren’t interested in your health. They don’t care if they help you in any way. They just want to spread mistrust of our basic institutions and rule the ruins."
Yes. Rule *and* ruin. They don't care how many die so long as it isn't *them.*
“…if you don’t get up and do something there will be no country left for your children, grandchildren and future generations…”
Given the coming Republican neoliberal, anti-democratic, failed state, no one should miss that shithole ceasing to exist.
As for the lab leak scenarios: notwithstanding that without some transparency or whistleblowing from someone in the lab, well never know what happened, so my speculation. My gut — usually wrong! — says an accidental lab leak. Of course, truth-wise, the conservatives’ POV is irrelevant as it’s nearly always fact- and more so truth-free.
But that opined, for the record: TPM has been running a series of opinions from readers who have actual experience with this stuff and they don’t buy the lab leak. Again, all FWIW.
I should add the origins of the China flu of minor, minor significance and relevance to the response or lack of same issue, bad as that looks for Republicans. But, you know, an honest assessment of that makes the media’s GOP buds look bad so…
Actually, I think, the best I can hope for is winning the Ohio million dollar lottery, since these kinds of people ceasing to be a factor in American life is pretty, well let's just say not realistic. And to be fair I really do have a chance, however small, to win that million dollars.
The anti-vaxxers are all over FB and there is not any hope for them. There are some leftists in there who have decided that every single thing the government and media puts out is a lie, therefore everything about Covid is also a lie. Therefore, there is no pandemic, and the vaccines are either just evil or dangerous and evil and while Bill Gates may not be chipping you if he likes it it has got to be a bad thing. Unfortunately, the fatality rate for unvaccinated people is not nearly high enough. Or am I just being cruel?
I had forgotten about the underrated gem "Little Murders." Alan Arkin's Detective Practice losing his shit is one of my all time favorite performances.
If The Donald kicks off before both Clintons, all Conservamerica will forever believe one of them slipped a poisoned Big Mac into the Mar-a-Lardo inner sanctum.
"-that’s why they’re forcing us to wear masks in grocery stores” etc
I guess there's a second amendment solution to that now.
Say that poor cashier in Georgia had said to the customer/ murderous asshole that refused to wear a mask " One second sir, I'll be right back" gone to the break room, got her gun out of her purse in her locker and returned to the register and shot the asshole who was endangering her life by refusing to wear a mask in a public health emergency. Would the Conservative Industrial Complex celebrate her exercise of her God given freedoms?
I imagine it would depend on the race of the participants involved.
White lady shoots black guy is a totally different circumstance than Black Lady shoots White Guy.
About half a dozen years ago I went to a rally organized by Larry Klayman at Lafayette Square, basically taking a trip to the wingnut zoo. Aside from his vicious nature, he was one of the most pathetic human beings I've ever seen and he had some stiff competition, including the Fonzie of Freedom, Nick Gillespie in his trademark leather jacket. Just a taste of the a$$hole festival to come, I suppose.
"Face it, they’ve gone into the great beyond, and the best you can hope for them and yourself is that they cease to be a factor in American life, and soon."
More likely a million Kyle Rittenhouses will bloom and a lot of motherfuckers will 'cease to be a factor in American life' because they'll be dead. There's a lot of fucking nuts with guns running around - waiting for the reinstatement of Trump or for the next wingnut savior in the Whitehouse to give them the command to begin the purge. 2024 is going to be interesting.
I can't decide whether the people who follow this hard-core stuff do it for reasons of pornography (the vicarious arousal of intense feeling), or team-sport tribalism. Can it be both? Ugh. DON'T ANSWER THAT.
Just the other day, I also read that the Delta variant is both highly transmissible and possibly more lethal than the other variants. So just having recovered from a previous infection, which confers only a limited, short-term immunity anyway won't prevent reinfection with a possible worse outcome. By contrast, scientists have found that the vaccines are highly effective against the variants as well as the original viral strain.
The anti-vaxxers think that they will be protected by surrounding high percentages of vaxxed populations but that's not how it's going to work with the highly transmissible variants. There will be no "herd immunity" for a long time to come.
Don’t shut down during the early stages of a pandemic, don’t wear masks, don’t socially distance, don’t get the vaccine. And Covid-19 cases are dropping like a stone in largely Democratic areas where most people are vaccinated, and still rising in largely Republican areas where most people are not.
I understand the GOP thinks it can rig the electoral game so they can consistently win with a minority of votes, but they still have to get SOME votes so it seems counter-intuitive to support behavior that will kill off your own base. But who am I to criticize, LOL?
"But the people attacking Fauci aren’t interested in your health. They don’t care if they help you in any way. They just want to spread mistrust of our basic institutions and rule the ruins."
Yes. Rule *and* ruin. They don't care how many die so long as it isn't *them.*
“…if you don’t get up and do something there will be no country left for your children, grandchildren and future generations…”
Given the coming Republican neoliberal, anti-democratic, failed state, no one should miss that shithole ceasing to exist.
As for the lab leak scenarios: notwithstanding that without some transparency or whistleblowing from someone in the lab, well never know what happened, so my speculation. My gut — usually wrong! — says an accidental lab leak. Of course, truth-wise, the conservatives’ POV is irrelevant as it’s nearly always fact- and more so truth-free.
But that opined, for the record: TPM has been running a series of opinions from readers who have actual experience with this stuff and they don’t buy the lab leak. Again, all FWIW.
I should add the origins of the China flu of minor, minor significance and relevance to the response or lack of same issue, bad as that looks for Republicans. But, you know, an honest assessment of that makes the media’s GOP buds look bad so…
Just a reminder Larry Klayman is the guy who sued his own mother.
Also, if COVID was a secret bioweapon, it was pretty damn stupid of the Chinese to unleash it on themselves first.
Actually, I think, the best I can hope for is winning the Ohio million dollar lottery, since these kinds of people ceasing to be a factor in American life is pretty, well let's just say not realistic. And to be fair I really do have a chance, however small, to win that million dollars.
The anti-vaxxers are all over FB and there is not any hope for them. There are some leftists in there who have decided that every single thing the government and media puts out is a lie, therefore everything about Covid is also a lie. Therefore, there is no pandemic, and the vaccines are either just evil or dangerous and evil and while Bill Gates may not be chipping you if he likes it it has got to be a bad thing. Unfortunately, the fatality rate for unvaccinated people is not nearly high enough. Or am I just being cruel?
I had forgotten about the underrated gem "Little Murders." Alan Arkin's Detective Practice losing his shit is one of my all time favorite performances.
I'll be honest, I think " Whorealdo" is pretty funny.
If The Donald kicks off before both Clintons, all Conservamerica will forever believe one of them slipped a poisoned Big Mac into the Mar-a-Lardo inner sanctum.
"Well, courage, guys, Kissinger’s bound to kick soon, and you know whose fault that will be!"
Don't threaten me with a good time, Edbert!
If Bill and Hillary want to do everyone a solid and add Kissinger to their Death List… I’m cool with that.
"-that’s why they’re forcing us to wear masks in grocery stores” etc
I guess there's a second amendment solution to that now.
Say that poor cashier in Georgia had said to the customer/ murderous asshole that refused to wear a mask " One second sir, I'll be right back" gone to the break room, got her gun out of her purse in her locker and returned to the register and shot the asshole who was endangering her life by refusing to wear a mask in a public health emergency. Would the Conservative Industrial Complex celebrate her exercise of her God given freedoms?
I imagine it would depend on the race of the participants involved.
White lady shoots black guy is a totally different circumstance than Black Lady shoots White Guy.
About half a dozen years ago I went to a rally organized by Larry Klayman at Lafayette Square, basically taking a trip to the wingnut zoo. Aside from his vicious nature, he was one of the most pathetic human beings I've ever seen and he had some stiff competition, including the Fonzie of Freedom, Nick Gillespie in his trademark leather jacket. Just a taste of the a$$hole festival to come, I suppose.
and rule the ruins.
Hey, I watched the original Lion King. Scar was not the hero.
"Face it, they’ve gone into the great beyond, and the best you can hope for them and yourself is that they cease to be a factor in American life, and soon."
More likely a million Kyle Rittenhouses will bloom and a lot of motherfuckers will 'cease to be a factor in American life' because they'll be dead. There's a lot of fucking nuts with guns running around - waiting for the reinstatement of Trump or for the next wingnut savior in the Whitehouse to give them the command to begin the purge. 2024 is going to be interesting.
I can't decide whether the people who follow this hard-core stuff do it for reasons of pornography (the vicarious arousal of intense feeling), or team-sport tribalism. Can it be both? Ugh. DON'T ANSWER THAT.
Just the other day, I also read that the Delta variant is both highly transmissible and possibly more lethal than the other variants. So just having recovered from a previous infection, which confers only a limited, short-term immunity anyway won't prevent reinfection with a possible worse outcome. By contrast, scientists have found that the vaccines are highly effective against the variants as well as the original viral strain.
The anti-vaxxers think that they will be protected by surrounding high percentages of vaxxed populations but that's not how it's going to work with the highly transmissible variants. There will be no "herd immunity" for a long time to come.