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Worriedman's avatar

"frothing horror" does have certain flair.

I am surrounded by these people. We are all civil. I think the word gets around I take no shit and will vigorously embarass them with their ignorance. Nobody talks Trump shit around me at work..The in-laws don't fuck with me either.

SundayStyle's avatar

I think I know what you mean, Roy.

I truly feel sorry for young people today for many reasons, but one is they’ve never been an adult during any sort of “normal” time. I’m not waxing nostalgic for the bad old days, I’m just pointing out that while various people and institutions and political parties always sucked, there was a time when most of them acknowledged it was necessary to at least *pretend* not to suck. Hypocrisy being the tribute that vice pays to virtue and all that.

My sons are in their mid 20s, so they are Elder Zoomers, and over the holiday weekend we were talking about that Jordan Peterson clip where he quotes a speech by a James Bond villain as if it were historical fact. We all agreed he’s loopy, but I found myself trying to explain to them that even 12 to 15 years ago we would likely never have known a character like that existed. A culturally conservative psychologist who spouted nonsense as a self-styled life coach, wept at the drop of a hat, became addicted to anti-anxiety meds, travelled to Russia to be put into a coma for an experimental “cure,” lived on an all-meat diet because of some made-up food sensitivities, and dressed like the Joker would have been laughed out of his profession and have only a small cult following at best. If he made a big splash with some bizarre activity he might rate one line in a late-night talk show host’s monologue. He would not have become wealthy, have a huge platform, or have a couple of million young men following his “advice.”

Idiocracy, mendacity, easily disprovable bullshit all the way down. Conservatives were ALWAYS bad, but now just feels…different.

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