One of their perennial complaints and always, always, always sooooo much bullshit. But I guess when your entire psyche is built on a foundation of victimhood, the world tends to become rather distorted.
Yeah, but it's particularly ballsy to bitch about media silence in articles where you link to media coverage of the story you accuse them of ignoring.
I figure it won't be long until one of them actually links the words ''but the media is silent'' to the coverage. And their audience STILL won't catch on.
The zero sum game analysis is correct, because it’s important to remember that for years now conservatives have had no interest in governance or *solving* problems, only in keeping score and covering their tracks while they loot the country’s wealth. And there is no blameworthy action too large or too obvious or too public for them not to at least ATTEMPT to shirk responsibility for it: hence the ridiculousness of their assertion the 1/6 insurrectionists weren’t real Trump supporters but were Antifa infiltrators.
When there's some racism there's bound to be a frenzy close by!
Byron York's haircut that was probably pretty cutting edge for a young conservative 40 years ago just makes him look like some old homeless guy that can't afford a haircut today.
I swear, they are finally getting to me. I've always been Mr. Peace Love and Understanding, but anymore, I'm starting to hate them back. Like, when I see anything by or about Dreher I start to muse about Megan Rapahoe knocking his stupid stuck up hoity-toity* racist ass cold enough to skate on.
I'm not proud of that but there it is.
*I'll be honest- I can never tell the hoity from the toity.
I don't understand this idea that children are somehow being harmed by remote learning. I'd have given anything to do school from home. No bullies, no shitty cafeteria lunches, and best of all, no gym class. What's not to like?
And while we're on the subject, am I the only one who thinks Peter Navarro has gone entirely too long without someone beating the living shit out of him to remind him of his actual place in the world?
I would be an even more poorly socialized misanthrope if I did not go to school. I also liked cafeteria lunches and gym class. Also, almost no one pays as much attention on Zoom as they do when present in person
"You can be sure if these guys could get to the water that good samaritans leave out in the desert for refugees, they’d pour it into the sand — or poison it."
Like the Border Patrol has been videotaped doing (well, not the poisoning part -- that Tucker Carlson would do)
Also, and again and again -- CRT reveals that white supremacy is an immense structure, where lighter, more wealthy, or more favored minorities can conscribe themselves to support it in order to eke out their own advantage. So, a black assailant attacks an Asian-American person? Structurally caused by hostitlity between these communities created by WS needs to elevate one side at the cost of the other. Georrge Zimmerman is a "white Latino"-- yep, because colonial structures enforced paradigms of colorism & purity in formerly colonized Latin American countries (& continues to support them today).
This shit ain't hard to suss out. They're just trying not to try.
I hope you’re right that their time is running out. Meanwhile, I’ve tried to imagine which previous wave of immigrants/refugees these assholes wouldn’t demonize: Jews in the 1930-40s? Irish in the 1850s? Eastern Europeans? Scandinavians? They might accept them now - they might be descended from them - but their xenophobia would make them reject and demonize them all. It’s not just race, it’s anything different from their conception of what belongs here, namely those already here (except Native and Black Americans, the exceptions that prove the rule).
Talk radio frames the world as an argument for argument's sake. This is what right-wing positions seem to be about, distracting from what actually happens or enacting policies to address either real problems such as discrimination based on race or focusing on solutions to fix broader problems such as systemic wealth inequality and wealth extraction.
I greatly appreciate that among your other regular subjects you break this down and frame it nicely so I don't have to sit and simmer at what I only half see.
"I greatly appreciate that among your other regular subjects you break this down and frame it nicely so I don't have to sit and simmer at what I only half see." Thanks. I break it down so I don't have to sit and simmer, either.
One more thing. It's funny but now I have the Catholic reactionary acquaintances who claim they are an oppressed minority. These are men 40-70 years of age of Germanic or Anglo-Irish descent who suddenly have discovered the KKK didn't like Catholics at one time or other and maybe they watched The Departed enough times to figure out Kennedy was the first Catholic president and Biden is the only other one.
"It makes their whole life look like a mistake and raises the horrifying prospect that their allegedly hard-nosed, “tough love” answers to racial issues were just cruel and stupid."
Dreher should just give up the pretense and put on a pair of Ray-Bans, set up a selfie video in his pick-up (the mise en scène for a plague of white bigots), and spout off entire columns while driving to the gun store.
--and take one step back from all this, and you can see the basic reality which is so ubiquitous it's hard to perceive: Liberals want to use gov't. to solve problems and make peoples' lives better. The right wants to thwart liberals. Liberals protest how society treats minorities. The right protests how liberals treat the right.
The civics class theory is that liberals and conservatives contend with each other and, in considering this "battle of ideas," the public expresses its will and desires as to which side serves its interests best. It's a competition. But today (if not since Reagan), it's like a baseball game in which one side wants to come to bat, and then play in the field, while the other spends all its time whining to the umps and to the fans about what the other side is doing. There *is* no competition. And the right cultivates a fan base of people who cheer, not because their team is winning the game, but because the other team is prevented from even playing.
Well, when you think there aren't going to be any direct consequences for _you_, and that's all you care-about, it _is_ a game.
And I'm really not _trying_ to both-sides it, but some people ostensibly on my side whose 'Trump and Biden are the same, nothing short of The Revolution will do.' ignored (e. g.) the different lives poor people would lead under each seemed to me to be really just playing.
1. Roy,this is yet another column that needs to be made public.
2. I think one sentence has a word missing: "So (THEY) answer every claim of injustice with a claim of their own..."
3. Conservatives have liberalism all wrong (surprise!). It's not about pretending to be an SJW so you can boast about how virtuous you are (at least not for most people). It's about creating a better world for everyone so we can all live together happily, or at least co-exist peacefully without constantly being at each other's throats. That world would be a better place for conservatives too, so why don't they want it? Because they believe there's a natural social hierarchy which places them at the top. Maintaining that power is everything to them, because they feel their lives are meaningless if they have to live on the same level as everyone else. A lot of them proclaim their Christianity, but their true motivation seems to be "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven".
Of course they get liberalism wrong, they can only generalize from what they think and why they would do something. They only work on projection and EAIAC
"You bring up an attempted violent overthrow of the US Government instigated by their former President, and they say 'But Hillary Clinton. . . .'"
Like you said, playing for slime.
"And of course the media remains silent . . ."
One of their perennial complaints and always, always, always sooooo much bullshit. But I guess when your entire psyche is built on a foundation of victimhood, the world tends to become rather distorted.
Yeah, but it's particularly ballsy to bitch about media silence in articles where you link to media coverage of the story you accuse them of ignoring.
I figure it won't be long until one of them actually links the words ''but the media is silent'' to the coverage. And their audience STILL won't catch on.
You mean like people on Twitter with 200K followers who complain they're being "silenced"? That kind of thing?
Contemporary "conservatism" is all about never being wrong, ever.
The zero sum game analysis is correct, because it’s important to remember that for years now conservatives have had no interest in governance or *solving* problems, only in keeping score and covering their tracks while they loot the country’s wealth. And there is no blameworthy action too large or too obvious or too public for them not to at least ATTEMPT to shirk responsibility for it: hence the ridiculousness of their assertion the 1/6 insurrectionists weren’t real Trump supporters but were Antifa infiltrators.
Well done !
When there's some racism there's bound to be a frenzy close by!
Byron York's haircut that was probably pretty cutting edge for a young conservative 40 years ago just makes him look like some old homeless guy that can't afford a haircut today.
I swear, they are finally getting to me. I've always been Mr. Peace Love and Understanding, but anymore, I'm starting to hate them back. Like, when I see anything by or about Dreher I start to muse about Megan Rapahoe knocking his stupid stuck up hoity-toity* racist ass cold enough to skate on.
I'm not proud of that but there it is.
*I'll be honest- I can never tell the hoity from the toity.
I don't understand this idea that children are somehow being harmed by remote learning. I'd have given anything to do school from home. No bullies, no shitty cafeteria lunches, and best of all, no gym class. What's not to like?
And while we're on the subject, am I the only one who thinks Peter Navarro has gone entirely too long without someone beating the living shit out of him to remind him of his actual place in the world?
I volunteer
I would be an even more poorly socialized misanthrope if I did not go to school. I also liked cafeteria lunches and gym class. Also, almost no one pays as much attention on Zoom as they do when present in person
Okay, yeah:
"You can be sure if these guys could get to the water that good samaritans leave out in the desert for refugees, they’d pour it into the sand — or poison it."
Like the Border Patrol has been videotaped doing (well, not the poisoning part -- that Tucker Carlson would do)
Also, and again and again -- CRT reveals that white supremacy is an immense structure, where lighter, more wealthy, or more favored minorities can conscribe themselves to support it in order to eke out their own advantage. So, a black assailant attacks an Asian-American person? Structurally caused by hostitlity between these communities created by WS needs to elevate one side at the cost of the other. Georrge Zimmerman is a "white Latino"-- yep, because colonial structures enforced paradigms of colorism & purity in formerly colonized Latin American countries (& continues to support them today).
This shit ain't hard to suss out. They're just trying not to try.
"Like the Border Patrol has been videotaped doing" -- yes, that's what I was thinking of; I should have put in a link. (I may still, for posterity.)
I hope you’re right that their time is running out. Meanwhile, I’ve tried to imagine which previous wave of immigrants/refugees these assholes wouldn’t demonize: Jews in the 1930-40s? Irish in the 1850s? Eastern Europeans? Scandinavians? They might accept them now - they might be descended from them - but their xenophobia would make them reject and demonize them all. It’s not just race, it’s anything different from their conception of what belongs here, namely those already here (except Native and Black Americans, the exceptions that prove the rule).
Talk radio frames the world as an argument for argument's sake. This is what right-wing positions seem to be about, distracting from what actually happens or enacting policies to address either real problems such as discrimination based on race or focusing on solutions to fix broader problems such as systemic wealth inequality and wealth extraction.
I greatly appreciate that among your other regular subjects you break this down and frame it nicely so I don't have to sit and simmer at what I only half see.
"I greatly appreciate that among your other regular subjects you break this down and frame it nicely so I don't have to sit and simmer at what I only half see." Thanks. I break it down so I don't have to sit and simmer, either.
One more thing. It's funny but now I have the Catholic reactionary acquaintances who claim they are an oppressed minority. These are men 40-70 years of age of Germanic or Anglo-Irish descent who suddenly have discovered the KKK didn't like Catholics at one time or other and maybe they watched The Departed enough times to figure out Kennedy was the first Catholic president and Biden is the only other one.
"It makes their whole life look like a mistake and raises the horrifying prospect that their allegedly hard-nosed, “tough love” answers to racial issues were just cruel and stupid."
Well, we can't have that can we?
Dreher should just give up the pretense and put on a pair of Ray-Bans, set up a selfie video in his pick-up (the mise en scène for a plague of white bigots), and spout off entire columns while driving to the gun store.
--and take one step back from all this, and you can see the basic reality which is so ubiquitous it's hard to perceive: Liberals want to use gov't. to solve problems and make peoples' lives better. The right wants to thwart liberals. Liberals protest how society treats minorities. The right protests how liberals treat the right.
The civics class theory is that liberals and conservatives contend with each other and, in considering this "battle of ideas," the public expresses its will and desires as to which side serves its interests best. It's a competition. But today (if not since Reagan), it's like a baseball game in which one side wants to come to bat, and then play in the field, while the other spends all its time whining to the umps and to the fans about what the other side is doing. There *is* no competition. And the right cultivates a fan base of people who cheer, not because their team is winning the game, but because the other team is prevented from even playing.
Is there an active writer today more vital a d astute than Roy? Maybe Adam Serwer or Brian Beutler? Either way this $7 monthly is a bargain
Now who can argue with that?
No one, that’s who.
Well, when you think there aren't going to be any direct consequences for _you_, and that's all you care-about, it _is_ a game.
And I'm really not _trying_ to both-sides it, but some people ostensibly on my side whose 'Trump and Biden are the same, nothing short of The Revolution will do.' ignored (e. g.) the different lives poor people would lead under each seemed to me to be really just playing.
1. Roy,this is yet another column that needs to be made public.
2. I think one sentence has a word missing: "So (THEY) answer every claim of injustice with a claim of their own..."
3. Conservatives have liberalism all wrong (surprise!). It's not about pretending to be an SJW so you can boast about how virtuous you are (at least not for most people). It's about creating a better world for everyone so we can all live together happily, or at least co-exist peacefully without constantly being at each other's throats. That world would be a better place for conservatives too, so why don't they want it? Because they believe there's a natural social hierarchy which places them at the top. Maintaining that power is everything to them, because they feel their lives are meaningless if they have to live on the same level as everyone else. A lot of them proclaim their Christianity, but their true motivation seems to be "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven".
Grateful on all counts. I'm made the correction and the issue is open to the public.
Bingo. Well said Mark
Thanks to all of you!
Of course they get liberalism wrong, they can only generalize from what they think and why they would do something. They only work on projection and EAIAC