It's worth noting that their leader, their object of adoration, their ideal of all that is truly manly and masculine is Donald J. Trump. You know, former president? The guy who wears heavy makeup all the time? The guy who spends an hour every day getting his hair JUST RIGHT? The guy who wears high heels?
Could it be that drag queens remind them a little too much that their acme of masculinity is actually a fey weakling, mewling coward, and far less than manly?
Very cogent and persuasive, Roy. I'd only quibble with "I don’t see any of these guys going 'How dare you play Hakuna Matata around my kids!'” If you follow Right Wing Watch, with their focus on the evangelical right, you're sure to find plenty of those guys -- pastors of megachurches, "prophets" with thousands of followers on YouTube, some of them name-checked from time to time by more "respectable" wingers -- saying Disney movies have been grooming children for the Antichrist since (((Eisner))) took over.
I'll be honest, I had to look up Ionic columns and. their volutes. I still enjoy looking stuff up. Someday, and it'll probably be sooner then later, I'll see stuff like that and not look it up figuring "That's just Edroso being high falutin again"
Here at work we've expanded to the full Fall Season staff - about 140 people. All ages - just as many young's as olds.
Out of 140 people, I bet 25 of them identify as something other than straight. And really, nobody gives a fuck. This is in a small rural community. The people that work here are from here or from surrounding communities just like this one.
I'm pretty sure gender hate as political issue is several years past the sell-by date. Everybody has a gay Uncle/Daughter/Son/ Mom/Preacher/ Teacher and most people don't GAF.
They can still rile the Rubes
up about it, sure. But Rubes are always gonna get riled about something.
You don't get much more cishet than me. I've never had the least interest in wearing women's clothes, but I also don't give a shit if someone else does. What strikes me about this anti-drag fervor (which really is a drag in and of itself) is that you don't get much more obviously gay than somebody in drag so that's the extreme example reactionaries seize upon as a focus for their general homophobia and fear of the other. This is basically the same point you were making.
And yet, literally within a couple of days, this obsession over drag will seem to be the least crazy shit spewing out of their mouths what with senators encouraging violent resistance to holding a lawbreaking/national security threat accountable under the law and whatever spews out of Traitorous Donnie's upper sphincter at the rally Saturday. But, you know, a very limited sense of what lives can be like and zero tolerance who those don't conform... fine people there. Imagine, the audacity not to teach kids to be haters. Terrible.
Oh. Just remembered that President Yang told us that hating those people is bad and not nice.
"[D]rag is associated with gay life. But so are, I don’t know, disco and Elton John and brush mustaches." And, I'd add, a well-closeted senator from South Carolina who I'm dissing there less for feeling the need to be closeted and a hypocrite so much as being so disgusting a human being that, it is alleged, all his intimate relationships are transactions. (Not dissing sex workers, just his complete reliance on them because of an apparent inability to find someone to connect with. I mean, the lack of such a relationship at all or choice not to have one, I think, are not good signs. Willing to be corrected on that point.)
Speaking as a cisgender heterosexual male of Roy's generation: I'm not terribly proud of this, but when I was young, although I didn't care a bit about someone's sexual orientation, I thought drag queens were, to use a precise word, "icky." I think it was the flamboyance that bothered me, which is essentially what Roy is saying. Along the same lines, it was people not following the rules and just being themselves without worrying about decorum. But if you're a conservative, decorum is very important, because it's the gateway drug to authoritarianism.
Aug 30, 2022·edited Aug 30, 2022Liked by Roy Edroso
For (small c and big C) conservatives, non-binary identity of any stripe is the last stop on the NO SIR I DON'T LIKE IT express. It threatens the tiny grasp they have on their deeply-held, constructed, primordial identities of 'powerful man, good mother, man/woman' at a base level. They can't accept (or be seen to condone) any drag as even an art form, a cultivated character with a discernible gender identity, even when that IS all it is... (not to mention cis-gendered women who perform as drag artists.) The whole matter of drag as an historical political statement is another matter entirely. Other cultures/nations have supported cross- and non-gender art forms since forever. No matter how mainstream Ru and the franchises have gotten (or how much money their TV stocks benefit) this is personal and will stay that way for good 'mericans.
I'm currently reading some things about pre-Columbian, pre-imperialism "native" cultures, and festivals when men and women would exchange clothes and roles, for reasons you state: fun rituals that disrupt the mundane. If "drag" goes back into prehistory, why don't cons relish the historicity of their ancestors they always look back fondly on.
Yet they support the Sunday worship hour featuring men in dresses who have been reliably accused of sexually molesting children. The Cognition doesn't get more Dissonant than that.
Why should Good Conservatives _care_ what this author says about Drag Queens? His knowledge of 'Ionic [GREEK!] columns' and. 'volutes' makes him (a pronoun!) highly suspect.
[picture of Rudy in drag with Donald Trump]
It's worth noting that their leader, their object of adoration, their ideal of all that is truly manly and masculine is Donald J. Trump. You know, former president? The guy who wears heavy makeup all the time? The guy who spends an hour every day getting his hair JUST RIGHT? The guy who wears high heels?
Could it be that drag queens remind them a little too much that their acme of masculinity is actually a fey weakling, mewling coward, and far less than manly?
Uncle Miltie is DEAD to me!!
Very cogent and persuasive, Roy. I'd only quibble with "I don’t see any of these guys going 'How dare you play Hakuna Matata around my kids!'” If you follow Right Wing Watch, with their focus on the evangelical right, you're sure to find plenty of those guys -- pastors of megachurches, "prophets" with thousands of followers on YouTube, some of them name-checked from time to time by more "respectable" wingers -- saying Disney movies have been grooming children for the Antichrist since (((Eisner))) took over.
I'll be honest, I had to look up Ionic columns and. their volutes. I still enjoy looking stuff up. Someday, and it'll probably be sooner then later, I'll see stuff like that and not look it up figuring "That's just Edroso being high falutin again"
Here at work we've expanded to the full Fall Season staff - about 140 people. All ages - just as many young's as olds.
Out of 140 people, I bet 25 of them identify as something other than straight. And really, nobody gives a fuck. This is in a small rural community. The people that work here are from here or from surrounding communities just like this one.
I'm pretty sure gender hate as political issue is several years past the sell-by date. Everybody has a gay Uncle/Daughter/Son/ Mom/Preacher/ Teacher and most people don't GAF.
They can still rile the Rubes
up about it, sure. But Rubes are always gonna get riled about something.
You don't get much more cishet than me. I've never had the least interest in wearing women's clothes, but I also don't give a shit if someone else does. What strikes me about this anti-drag fervor (which really is a drag in and of itself) is that you don't get much more obviously gay than somebody in drag so that's the extreme example reactionaries seize upon as a focus for their general homophobia and fear of the other. This is basically the same point you were making.
I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but drag is anti-shame, and will naturally attract the hate of those who are resolutely pro-shame.
And yet, literally within a couple of days, this obsession over drag will seem to be the least crazy shit spewing out of their mouths what with senators encouraging violent resistance to holding a lawbreaking/national security threat accountable under the law and whatever spews out of Traitorous Donnie's upper sphincter at the rally Saturday. But, you know, a very limited sense of what lives can be like and zero tolerance who those don't conform... fine people there. Imagine, the audacity not to teach kids to be haters. Terrible.
Oh. Just remembered that President Yang told us that hating those people is bad and not nice.
"[D]rag is associated with gay life. But so are, I don’t know, disco and Elton John and brush mustaches." And, I'd add, a well-closeted senator from South Carolina who I'm dissing there less for feeling the need to be closeted and a hypocrite so much as being so disgusting a human being that, it is alleged, all his intimate relationships are transactions. (Not dissing sex workers, just his complete reliance on them because of an apparent inability to find someone to connect with. I mean, the lack of such a relationship at all or choice not to have one, I think, are not good signs. Willing to be corrected on that point.)
Speaking as a cisgender heterosexual male of Roy's generation: I'm not terribly proud of this, but when I was young, although I didn't care a bit about someone's sexual orientation, I thought drag queens were, to use a precise word, "icky." I think it was the flamboyance that bothered me, which is essentially what Roy is saying. Along the same lines, it was people not following the rules and just being themselves without worrying about decorum. But if you're a conservative, decorum is very important, because it's the gateway drug to authoritarianism.
Reread just now 'cause I knew I'd get more out of it than from just one. Mainly I hearted the whole damn thing for its insight, but there's this, to:
"your average GOP candidate stands on drag queens", which, decontextualization notwithstanding,
2 marks!
For (small c and big C) conservatives, non-binary identity of any stripe is the last stop on the NO SIR I DON'T LIKE IT express. It threatens the tiny grasp they have on their deeply-held, constructed, primordial identities of 'powerful man, good mother, man/woman' at a base level. They can't accept (or be seen to condone) any drag as even an art form, a cultivated character with a discernible gender identity, even when that IS all it is... (not to mention cis-gendered women who perform as drag artists.) The whole matter of drag as an historical political statement is another matter entirely. Other cultures/nations have supported cross- and non-gender art forms since forever. No matter how mainstream Ru and the franchises have gotten (or how much money their TV stocks benefit) this is personal and will stay that way for good 'mericans.
I'm currently reading some things about pre-Columbian, pre-imperialism "native" cultures, and festivals when men and women would exchange clothes and roles, for reasons you state: fun rituals that disrupt the mundane. If "drag" goes back into prehistory, why don't cons relish the historicity of their ancestors they always look back fondly on.
Yet they support the Sunday worship hour featuring men in dresses who have been reliably accused of sexually molesting children. The Cognition doesn't get more Dissonant than that.
Why should Good Conservatives _care_ what this author says about Drag Queens? His knowledge of 'Ionic [GREEK!] columns' and. 'volutes' makes him (a pronoun!) highly suspect.
Actually, they do get pretty outraged at Hakuna Matata.
Anyway, my plan is to cure my depression and then become the world's glitteriest cis drag queen just to confuse the fuck out of these killjoys.