Sometimes I wonder -- although this is an impossibility -- if Trump said "elections are valid, there has been no fraud" if these people would stand down, or if they no longer look to him but are so walled off in their grievance and crazy conspiracy theories they would carry on anyway.
But it's moot since he is no more likely to say that than a pig is likely to fly.
And today's post illustrates, in large part, why I so respect the GOP voters.
I'm so old I feebly remember when Democrat primary voters kept nominating candidates too extreme to win elections. Doubt that it was good for the nation but the GOP voters doing that now surely (and apparently) is a good thing.
Meanwhile, Hobbs is suing Cochise county. Apparently whatever they do doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things so this is little more than a fully earned and deserved slap in the face which is to say a Good Thing.
Meanwhile a Dem Congress-thing died. Someone thought running a candidate at death's door was somehow a good idea. And since he's from Virginia, no idea whether the governor names a replacement or what.
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In a country full of people leading meaningless lives, joining with others to fight against "evil" has a strong attraction for some.
They grind away at their shitty jobs, never quite making enough to keep the paper on the pickup truck away from the title loan guys. There's no hope for advancement, their health insurance, if they've got it, don't pay for shit and the best Christmas bonus they ever got was a $20 gift card from Kroger.
(My first job as a grower for a nursery gave the whole staff Kroger gift cards for $14.35 as a Christmas bonus. The owners said that was all the money they could afford. They went to Cancun for the holidays)
Their kids are doughy and not even very good at Xbox - crazy considering they spend a dozen hours a day playing. The old lady is in the same shape. She's got a shit job at Ten and Below.
She's a night shift supervisor. It's one of the last three places left in the mall and everybody expects the store to close any day. She drives a 10-year-old Hyundai it has the trunk wired shut. Title guys won't lend any money on it. They live in a shitty apartment with black mold under the bathroom vanity and a garbage disposal that never worked since they moved in. Rent went up 3 times last year.
For a while they got caught up in the big church that opened in the Kmart at the edge of town.
That was nice for a while - it's good to talk to other people who have the same shitty kind of life you do. Preachers always up your ass for money though.
Then this MAGA thing showed up. It was great hearing Trump talk shit on everybody and it made a lot of sense what he was saying - coloreds and queers and Mexicans and stuck up bitches having everything just given to them when all you get to do is work and worry. Being a MAGA and fighting against that - fighting for Freedom - why, that was even better than Church! And you get to carry guns ! Guns are just the best thing ever.
To tell you the truth, lately Trump's been as bad as those Preachers about asking for money.
Toddlers with guns. Iโm surprised none of them threatened to hold their breath or lay prone on the floor, kicking their heels. Whatโs the appropriate time-out for election interference? 1-2, 3-4? Felony? โDonโt make me come down there!โ
Yep. Punishable by the death penalty. I'm putting on my body armor. The Tree of Liberty needs watering. My Constitutional right to bear arms everywhere. What? No! I'm not making death threats! I'm just saying that you committed treason, which could be punishable by death, and that I'm armed to the teeth and not quite sane, is all.
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If this is the CIVIL WAR we were promised if Republicans didn't win, I'll take it. Stand up in front of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and when the little bell rings because your two minutes are up, you step aside for the next nut in line. Very revolutionary.
And I, for one, salute the courageous officials of Cochise County, bravely withholding their county's votes from the statewide totals. I can only hope the officials of Waukesha County are watching and follow this example in all future elections.
Nov 29, 2022ยทedited Nov 29, 2022Liked by Roy Edroso
Speaking from experience as a former dues-paying member of the Green Party, it's really, really hard to sustain a political movement on a diet of nothing but losing.
How about a movie called Lust For Power about a domestic abuser who feels threatened by his wife's legitimate desire for some independence and tries to kill her? Nah, too subtle for the wingers.
Oh, yeah, Filipkowski. The guy who tweets several MUST WATCH video clips a day without captioning. It's fine. We probably don't need disabled people voting for democrats anyway.
"Kari Lake supporter today to Maricopa Supervisors: โ7 traitors to the Constitution. Interference in an election is a capital offense. Itโs considered treason punishable by the death penalty. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution necessary.โ "
Ron Gould sez โI donโt think that was what the Founders had in mind when they used the democratic process to elect ou(r)* leadersโ
Looks to me like Ron did not get the memo 'bout 'ain't no democracy, you peons, this here's a republic!' He'll be woodshedded soon or there'll be Trump to pay!
* (or maybe he really did mean 'out' โ crap โ word salad bar incomplete without sneeze guard)
The last few years have been a fascinating and perilous experiment in weaponized sociology. This experiment has left us with a bunch of high-functioning zombie suicide bombers, who work like landmines dropped into the middle of the population. They might do anything from yell racist obscenities at random passers-by to a massacre. We need a concerted and coordinated effort to handle these people as dangerous, bc they've made their intentions clear even if they themselves aren't clear.
"Their gripe beats your vote," yes, and it's impossible to know how much griping, posturing, swaggering around in camo w/ weapons, and speaking in pretentious, fancy, pseudo-18th century lingo is the end in itself, versus a prelude to something else. It makes them feel good, period. They obviously don't care about the truth. They *think* they do, but that, too, is fantasy.
Not to ride, or beat a dead, hobbyhorse, but this is a secular kind of religion--socially-sanctioned irrationality, which is pathetic and deluded and harmless, until it isn't.
O brave new world, that hath such people in it!
Sometimes I wonder -- although this is an impossibility -- if Trump said "elections are valid, there has been no fraud" if these people would stand down, or if they no longer look to him but are so walled off in their grievance and crazy conspiracy theories they would carry on anyway.
But it's moot since he is no more likely to say that than a pig is likely to fly.
yep, armed conflict is what they seek, or think they seek.
And today's post illustrates, in large part, why I so respect the GOP voters.
I'm so old I feebly remember when Democrat primary voters kept nominating candidates too extreme to win elections. Doubt that it was good for the nation but the GOP voters doing that now surely (and apparently) is a good thing.
Meanwhile, Hobbs is suing Cochise county. Apparently whatever they do doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things so this is little more than a fully earned and deserved slap in the face which is to say a Good Thing.
Meanwhile a Dem Congress-thing died. Someone thought running a candidate at death's door was somehow a good idea. And since he's from Virginia, no idea whether the governor names a replacement or what.
In a country full of people leading meaningless lives, joining with others to fight against "evil" has a strong attraction for some.
They grind away at their shitty jobs, never quite making enough to keep the paper on the pickup truck away from the title loan guys. There's no hope for advancement, their health insurance, if they've got it, don't pay for shit and the best Christmas bonus they ever got was a $20 gift card from Kroger.
(My first job as a grower for a nursery gave the whole staff Kroger gift cards for $14.35 as a Christmas bonus. The owners said that was all the money they could afford. They went to Cancun for the holidays)
Their kids are doughy and not even very good at Xbox - crazy considering they spend a dozen hours a day playing. The old lady is in the same shape. She's got a shit job at Ten and Below.
She's a night shift supervisor. It's one of the last three places left in the mall and everybody expects the store to close any day. She drives a 10-year-old Hyundai it has the trunk wired shut. Title guys won't lend any money on it. They live in a shitty apartment with black mold under the bathroom vanity and a garbage disposal that never worked since they moved in. Rent went up 3 times last year.
For a while they got caught up in the big church that opened in the Kmart at the edge of town.
That was nice for a while - it's good to talk to other people who have the same shitty kind of life you do. Preachers always up your ass for money though.
Then this MAGA thing showed up. It was great hearing Trump talk shit on everybody and it made a lot of sense what he was saying - coloreds and queers and Mexicans and stuck up bitches having everything just given to them when all you get to do is work and worry. Being a MAGA and fighting against that - fighting for Freedom - why, that was even better than Church! And you get to carry guns ! Guns are just the best thing ever.
To tell you the truth, lately Trump's been as bad as those Preachers about asking for money.
Toddlers with guns. Iโm surprised none of them threatened to hold their breath or lay prone on the floor, kicking their heels. Whatโs the appropriate time-out for election interference? 1-2, 3-4? Felony? โDonโt make me come down there!โ
Yep. Punishable by the death penalty. I'm putting on my body armor. The Tree of Liberty needs watering. My Constitutional right to bear arms everywhere. What? No! I'm not making death threats! I'm just saying that you committed treason, which could be punishable by death, and that I'm armed to the teeth and not quite sane, is all.
If this is the CIVIL WAR we were promised if Republicans didn't win, I'll take it. Stand up in front of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and when the little bell rings because your two minutes are up, you step aside for the next nut in line. Very revolutionary.
And I, for one, salute the courageous officials of Cochise County, bravely withholding their county's votes from the statewide totals. I can only hope the officials of Waukesha County are watching and follow this example in all future elections.
Speaking from experience as a former dues-paying member of the Green Party, it's really, really hard to sustain a political movement on a diet of nothing but losing.
How about a movie called Lust For Power about a domestic abuser who feels threatened by his wife's legitimate desire for some independence and tries to kill her? Nah, too subtle for the wingers.
Oh, yeah, Filipkowski. The guy who tweets several MUST WATCH video clips a day without captioning. It's fine. We probably don't need disabled people voting for democrats anyway.
"Kari Lake supporter today to Maricopa Supervisors: โ7 traitors to the Constitution. Interference in an election is a capital offense. Itโs considered treason punishable by the death penalty. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution necessary.โ "
Dancing around the point...
Tripping the light stochastic.
Ron Gould sez โI donโt think that was what the Founders had in mind when they used the democratic process to elect ou(r)* leadersโ
Looks to me like Ron did not get the memo 'bout 'ain't no democracy, you peons, this here's a republic!' He'll be woodshedded soon or there'll be Trump to pay!
* (or maybe he really did mean 'out' โ crap โ word salad bar incomplete without sneeze guard)
The last few years have been a fascinating and perilous experiment in weaponized sociology. This experiment has left us with a bunch of high-functioning zombie suicide bombers, who work like landmines dropped into the middle of the population. They might do anything from yell racist obscenities at random passers-by to a massacre. We need a concerted and coordinated effort to handle these people as dangerous, bc they've made their intentions clear even if they themselves aren't clear.
"Their gripe beats your vote," yes, and it's impossible to know how much griping, posturing, swaggering around in camo w/ weapons, and speaking in pretentious, fancy, pseudo-18th century lingo is the end in itself, versus a prelude to something else. It makes them feel good, period. They obviously don't care about the truth. They *think* they do, but that, too, is fantasy.
Not to ride, or beat a dead, hobbyhorse, but this is a secular kind of religion--socially-sanctioned irrationality, which is pathetic and deluded and harmless, until it isn't.