i've got nothing much to say here, because i can't find anything with which to disagree. i've long given up arguing with, or even engaging with, those on the right. there's no point, when one's positions are met with frontier gibberish. i used to find the lack of the possibility of dialog troubling, but now all i can do is shrug it off.
Looks like I’m going to have to reconsider whether all those fine people are pathological or just suffer from hanging with the wrong people. Not it matters beyond an intellectual exercise.
Pseudoconservatism gave up on intellect long ago. Back in the day there were right wing “intellectuals” like William Buckley but despite putting on airs of superiority, their arguments wilted in the face of opponents like Steve Allen, a comedian! Flash forward to the likes of Jonah and the pretense was paperback thin. Now it’s become the standard at the highest levels: Trump with his 4th grade vocabulary and kindergarten debating skill, the parade of dolts in his White House, the House of Reps and the Senate, and now the Supreme Chortle where knowledge and wisdom have been abandoned for fervor and fallacy. The last few gabblefabs in the Chambers of the Jesters might had well been emojis and gifs, for all the mental rigor on display by the likes of Kegs and ACB. Those who resent experts are bound to be ruled by idiots.
"[T]hey're not supposed to say 'Fuck Joe Biden,' so they say something meaningless with the same cadence instead."
This is what I find so ridiculous about the whole phenomenon. Many of these same people have flags that literally say "Fuck Joe Biden." They wear t-shirts that say, "Fuck Your Feelings." Since when are these assholes shy about using curse words?
1. How do you have the patience to engage with these idiots? My blood pressure won't allow anything like that.
2. "Let's Go Brandon" really is the idiot catchphrase of the early '20's. My spam filter is constantly filled with offers for t-shirts brandishing this stupid slogan. I'd suggest counter peddling shirts that read "F$%k Donald Trump," but a lot of folks who identify as Democrats would find this vulgar so no go.
I’ve started to think that for them, the emojis are the visual equivalent of “HA, made you look!” They’re thrilled they’ve been engaged by someone who has mental functions above brain-stem activity – it allows them an opportunity to put their underpants on their head and prance around. I think it kind of is another version of Own the Libs, just distilled down to its absolutely dumbest, non-verbal form. Because yeah, they don’t have any real arguments, just a lot of animosity and bullet points of misinformation.
If Erasmus of Rotterdam were writing today for a RW intellectual NYT sinecure column, his first offering would be titled "In Praise of Falling Down Jokes"
"Leave aside . . . my own sport with Jonah Goldberg, for whom flatulence is a key to character."
If it weren't for flatulence, that asshole would have nothing to say.
Ah, Roy! Surely you must remember Bobby Jindal delivering his SOTU response about how stupid it is to have an entire government office devoted to monitoring volcanoes . . . only to have a volcano erupt in Alaska the very next morning and disrupt cargo flights for a week.
Surely you must remember Jindal exhorting his GOP confederates that Republicans "not become the Party of stupid" . . . only to have his confederates run him out of the Party for not being stupid enough.
Teh Stupid is all they know, all they want, all they think they understand. Donald Trump is epically stupid, and thus to they identify with him.
I passed a by asemi-truck a month or so ago that had
"Fk the Brandon admin" written in the film of dirt on the back door. It was high enough up it couldn't have been written from the ground. I realized I had found someone even the Stupid probably considered stupid.
When Fred Hiatt died and the accolades came pouring in about how great his editorial page was, I just kept thinking, "but he kept Marc Thiessen (and Hugh Hewitt) on there for years past their expiration date." Ya know what? Maybe poor Fred was trying to get his audience to understand the MAGA crowd by keeping on his Jane Goodall, the person who could interpret the grunts and howls for the human audience. The only difference is, I think the gorillas liked Jane; no one fucking likes Marc.
I was a real George Carlin "7 words"/ Lenny Bruce "to is a preposition , come is a verb " kind of guy in my lower teens. "They are just words. man. What is everyone afraid of?"
Now that we've reached a point where you can say whatever the fuck.
"liberals are always trying to explain things or make sense of them, and what better way to frustrate them than by announcing yourself too dumb to know or care what they’re talking about?"
Roy hits the nail right on its fucking head. Well done.
Liberals are people who take stuff seriously (climate change, gun deaths, Covid, etc.) so per Cleek's Law, right-wingers must position themselves as anti-serious. Taking things seriously would generally imply some government action should be taken, refusing to take things seriously is a way to forestall government action, so "Let's Go Brandon" grows naturally from seeds planted by Ronald Reagan and other eminent conservatives.
To be (way more than) fair, there are a handful of liberal phrases that still light up the MSNBC crowd like they’re at a Frampton Comes Alive concert: “Basket of deplorables.” “Please proceed.” [WOOO! So awesome! GOT ‘EM!] But despite phrases like that being stale at best, or not clever in the first place at worst, they were at least grounded in *something* other than third-grade poo flinging.
These are the same people who eat turkey, not because they like it but because of Sarah Palin, or well done steaks not because they like them but because Trump. But, first they must tell you they don't really like these things, but eat them because by doing so they own the libs (some how).
I do not appear to have the ability to understand them. And many days I don't want to expend the energy.
i've got nothing much to say here, because i can't find anything with which to disagree. i've long given up arguing with, or even engaging with, those on the right. there's no point, when one's positions are met with frontier gibberish. i used to find the lack of the possibility of dialog troubling, but now all i can do is shrug it off.
Someone say stupid
https://harpers.org/archive/2021/09/the-third-force-stupidity-and-transcendence/
Looks like I’m going to have to reconsider whether all those fine people are pathological or just suffer from hanging with the wrong people. Not it matters beyond an intellectual exercise.
But Roy, tell us how you really feel.
Pseudoconservatism gave up on intellect long ago. Back in the day there were right wing “intellectuals” like William Buckley but despite putting on airs of superiority, their arguments wilted in the face of opponents like Steve Allen, a comedian! Flash forward to the likes of Jonah and the pretense was paperback thin. Now it’s become the standard at the highest levels: Trump with his 4th grade vocabulary and kindergarten debating skill, the parade of dolts in his White House, the House of Reps and the Senate, and now the Supreme Chortle where knowledge and wisdom have been abandoned for fervor and fallacy. The last few gabblefabs in the Chambers of the Jesters might had well been emojis and gifs, for all the mental rigor on display by the likes of Kegs and ACB. Those who resent experts are bound to be ruled by idiots.
"nostalgie de la baba booey": I'll use this.
And "Dare to be stupid" was prophetic.
"[T]hey're not supposed to say 'Fuck Joe Biden,' so they say something meaningless with the same cadence instead."
This is what I find so ridiculous about the whole phenomenon. Many of these same people have flags that literally say "Fuck Joe Biden." They wear t-shirts that say, "Fuck Your Feelings." Since when are these assholes shy about using curse words?
1. How do you have the patience to engage with these idiots? My blood pressure won't allow anything like that.
2. "Let's Go Brandon" really is the idiot catchphrase of the early '20's. My spam filter is constantly filled with offers for t-shirts brandishing this stupid slogan. I'd suggest counter peddling shirts that read "F$%k Donald Trump," but a lot of folks who identify as Democrats would find this vulgar so no go.
I’ve started to think that for them, the emojis are the visual equivalent of “HA, made you look!” They’re thrilled they’ve been engaged by someone who has mental functions above brain-stem activity – it allows them an opportunity to put their underpants on their head and prance around. I think it kind of is another version of Own the Libs, just distilled down to its absolutely dumbest, non-verbal form. Because yeah, they don’t have any real arguments, just a lot of animosity and bullet points of misinformation.
"Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain." Schiller
Treason In The Defense Of Stupidity
If Erasmus of Rotterdam were writing today for a RW intellectual NYT sinecure column, his first offering would be titled "In Praise of Falling Down Jokes"
"Leave aside . . . my own sport with Jonah Goldberg, for whom flatulence is a key to character."
If it weren't for flatulence, that asshole would have nothing to say.
Ah, Roy! Surely you must remember Bobby Jindal delivering his SOTU response about how stupid it is to have an entire government office devoted to monitoring volcanoes . . . only to have a volcano erupt in Alaska the very next morning and disrupt cargo flights for a week.
Surely you must remember Jindal exhorting his GOP confederates that Republicans "not become the Party of stupid" . . . only to have his confederates run him out of the Party for not being stupid enough.
Teh Stupid is all they know, all they want, all they think they understand. Donald Trump is epically stupid, and thus to they identify with him.
I passed a by asemi-truck a month or so ago that had
"Fk the Brandon admin" written in the film of dirt on the back door. It was high enough up it couldn't have been written from the ground. I realized I had found someone even the Stupid probably considered stupid.
I blame Facebook.
When Fred Hiatt died and the accolades came pouring in about how great his editorial page was, I just kept thinking, "but he kept Marc Thiessen (and Hugh Hewitt) on there for years past their expiration date." Ya know what? Maybe poor Fred was trying to get his audience to understand the MAGA crowd by keeping on his Jane Goodall, the person who could interpret the grunts and howls for the human audience. The only difference is, I think the gorillas liked Jane; no one fucking likes Marc.
I shouldn't talk.. I just come right out and say
"Fuck Trump".
All the time.
I was a real George Carlin "7 words"/ Lenny Bruce "to is a preposition , come is a verb " kind of guy in my lower teens. "They are just words. man. What is everyone afraid of?"
Now that we've reached a point where you can say whatever the fuck.
I kind of miss the Language Police.
The whole culture is stuck in third grade recess.
"liberals are always trying to explain things or make sense of them, and what better way to frustrate them than by announcing yourself too dumb to know or care what they’re talking about?"
Roy hits the nail right on its fucking head. Well done.
Liberals are people who take stuff seriously (climate change, gun deaths, Covid, etc.) so per Cleek's Law, right-wingers must position themselves as anti-serious. Taking things seriously would generally imply some government action should be taken, refusing to take things seriously is a way to forestall government action, so "Let's Go Brandon" grows naturally from seeds planted by Ronald Reagan and other eminent conservatives.
To be (way more than) fair, there are a handful of liberal phrases that still light up the MSNBC crowd like they’re at a Frampton Comes Alive concert: “Basket of deplorables.” “Please proceed.” [WOOO! So awesome! GOT ‘EM!] But despite phrases like that being stale at best, or not clever in the first place at worst, they were at least grounded in *something* other than third-grade poo flinging.
These are the same people who eat turkey, not because they like it but because of Sarah Palin, or well done steaks not because they like them but because Trump. But, first they must tell you they don't really like these things, but eat them because by doing so they own the libs (some how).
I do not appear to have the ability to understand them. And many days I don't want to expend the energy.