Oh, they are SO confused. 1776 is the only model of social change they've allowed themselves to have, and yet they can see that the hated libs and minorities seem to have gotten SOMETHING out of other, nonviolent less-than-revolution means, so they want some of that, but they're aping tactics they don't understand practiced by people they hate, so how could that possibly go well?
The cops are going very gently with them. And I understand it -- you don't want to indulge these assholes by playing cat and mouse all day. But I fear it will require a big incident to get it cleaned up.
So, right on target, eh truckerboy? I mean, coulda been any random pissed off person, Right? But no: assuming you know what 'antifa' actually means, you're now admitting/embracing your fascisticism. 'Cause antifa don't do no non-fascisti...
My pa and his brother and a few million other Americans were paid by the US Gummint to kill people like you back in the day...
Right, it's the soda stains that will allow us to identify who gets sent to the reeducation camps after the General Strike succeeds in bringing down the government and replacing it with General Assemblies and Talking Circles. Am I worried they might wash their clothes between now and then? No, I am not.
I suppose when you’ve got absolutely nothing to justify your actions – there ARE no meaningful Covid restrictions in most places or situations anymore – and people oppose you, there’s nothing else to fall back on besides an “even when I lose, I win” attitude.
I think they probably are, or think they are, testing the fences in preparation for another J6. But since most of what I’ve read about them makes me wonder if they are capable of hitting the urinal on the first squirt let alone toppling the federal government, I have to wonder if the big boys who are funding them really believe they are getting bang for their buck.
If the goal is to keep 70 million Americans on a slow boil, the trucker convoy is just one of many, many things they got goin'. From "Democrats want to put a child pornographer on the Supreme Court" to "Hate Joe Biden because he's a warmonger who's trying to get us into a war in the Ukraine" to "Hate Joe Biden because he's a wimp who's too scared to get us into a war in the Ukraine", they got LOTS of stuff, no one thing needs to be that effective to justify its relatively minimal expense.
"even when I lose, I win" is the default position of all conservatives, because it has been proven that they can commit crimes and even treason with no consequences.
Scared school administrators pulling books from the shelves that MIGHT create controversy. So even if they don't get their book-banning laws past the legislature and the local school board won't formally ban all the LGBTQ titles, they'll still get what they want.
And they really did win the masking fight. Not in the sense of actually persuading a majority of Americans they were right (they never succeed in that). But when Covid-24 comes along, you can be sure lots of local health officials will remember the death threats and hold back in doing, well, basically anything in response. Big win for conservatism (and the coronavirus).
The one thing all us commie america-haters have going for us with this is that when you have 50 manly “alphas” in a room trying to plan some patriotism like J6 Part 2, most of them are going to feel like they’ve been cucked if THEIR PLAN isn’t the one. You can generally count on their need to be in control of a situation to fuck it all up.
I think one of the lessons of Jan. 6 is that you don't have to be all that coordinated to almost overthrow the U.S. government. Just agree on the time and place, and the thugs show up to act on their own initiative. I suspect the scene you're describing, which I can easily imagine, would have taken place if they'd been more successful. Proud Boys and 3 percenters filling the Senate chamber debating what to do with their hostages, with the debate ranging from "kill 'em all right now" to "kill 'em all slowly over a period of days."
Whoa! There was lots of coordination. People are going to prison for conspiracy based on evidence the DOJ has been building up for over a year. They went to DC ready with plans to lead the mob Trump had assembled for them.
2. Do these guys really like sleeping in truck cabs and relieving themselves in milk jugs?
3. I hope they all die of the coronavirus.
4. It would serve them right if a bunch of people descended on their home towns and made their lives miserable, but who wants to go to Bumf&*k, Georgia?
Personally hoping they don't die of the coronavirus, I'm hoping they're housebound and sick from long covid. Maybe with supplemental oxygen for the rest of their lives. And if they made fat jokes about covid deaths, I'm hoping they get diabetes too.
Arguably, this is awful of me, because wishing disabilities on people is the same as saying disability is a punishment and feeds into that fucked up attitude that leads to their "Well, sick people should stay home anyway" shit. But I'm an asshole and into ironic punishment, so I'm still hoping they lose a foot.
"Not sure what they’ll do then; I doubt they’ll be comfortable sleeping under bridges with the local homeless." Maybe Ginni Thomas will spring for a block of rooms at the Willard.
Wouldn't you know it? Those nasty girlers... with their unusual middle fingers. Perhaps it had a talon upon it? Maybe it was a hex?
Now I'm wondering why the "Conroy" hasn't taken up the flag already of anti-LGBTQ+ agitation or pro-forced birth bills. That energy's latent in the 'tarring & feathering BLM Plaza' or 'antfa soy boy' riffs (rivves?) Why haven't their dark money masters pulled the trigger on that.
Also, now I wonder -- perhaps the need is keeping these chuds in place for J6 2.0 -- when Judge Ketanji is confirmed.
I think it's a real classic: The People's Convoy comes to town for the express purpose of making peoples' lives miserable. They're successful in making people pissed off . . . and they're completely confounded that they're not generating the popular support they thought they would get.
The media, however much they're doing, making the assholes and impotent snowflakes look like they're anything but assholes and impotent snowflakes doesn't empower them anywhere nearly as much as they fantasized they're empowering.
As for the tolerant lib crap: Well, you know, after exercising all that tolerance for those who deserve it there isn't anything left in the tank for them who previously mocked said tolerance.
And if I may stumble on my own metaphor, they're the cancer in the body of the nation that we're ignoring.
And to twist GM's comment from yesterday, they're *just* Franken-men, parodies of manly men, acting out the power they don't actually have having given it away to their beloved Republican pols.
Upvoted for "As for the tolerant lib crap: Well, you know, after exercising all that tolerance for those who deserve it there isn't anything left in the tank for them who previously mocked said tolerance."
The WaPo had a long, LONG, profile of the Head Trucker, the challenges he's facing, the occasional doubts he has about the mission and the people he's "leading", how he feels about being attacked by his own for being insufficiently revolutionary, and he didn't come off as a bad sort, just a confused guy in well over his head.
But as I read it I struggled to recall anything remotely like it about the leaders of an Iraq-era peace movement that could put hundreds of thousands of people in the streets of our major cities on the regular. Nope, didn't happen. Sorry, Leslie Cagan, the WaPo just wasn't interested.
"Washington is not my town or even my fellow residents’ town, but instead belonged to the “People of the United States,” which apparently means everyone except the people who live here, so marauders can do any old bullshit here no matter how much it bothers the people who live here so long as it’s done in the name of Freedom"
Same mindset as the bundy crowd out west - the land belongs to the people, so I get to use it for my personal benefit. Same as a vegetable thief once told a gardener friend - this is a community garden on public land, so I can take what I want.
Sorry, The Revolution will have to move elsewhere, we got some dirt-track racin' to do. That form of knuckleheads driving in circles draws a paying crowd, unlike YOUR kind of knuckleheads driving in circles.
I dunno man – I'd kinda like to see the truckerboys wind those suckas up and do 50 laps on the speedway instead of the Beltway. Would I buy a ticket? Depends on who's payin'.
The Brooks Brothers Riot has been going strong since 2000—then again, when have men of property _ever_ believed that the Law rightly applied to them? Mr Trump is only an extreme and blatant example in his belief in infantile freedom for his rich self.
How does the saying go? There are those the law is meant to protect but not bind, and those the law is meant to bind but not protect. Guess which group these guys are in?
I live in Huntington Beach. For exercise I ride the beach walk through HN & Newport Beach. There are a couple of motor home parks on the beach. Whenever I see a Trump flag flying from a motor home, I flip it off.
Today a guy yelled at me when I did that. He told me it was his flag & told me not to flip the bird because his kids were around. I told him that wasn't my problem. If he doesn't want me flipping off the Trump 2024 flag, take it down.
MAGAts are deeply stupid. The asshole in question told me my gesture was offensive. I told him his flag offended me. He said something about the 1st Amendment. I said, yeah, that's why I can flip you off, free speech.
I'm certain he didn't understand.
I flipped it off when I came by it on the way home too. At least he didn't say anything this time.
They want this to be 1776 all over again, yet they're defeated by three girls in a Hyundai and tossed soda. They're not even sunshine patriots.
To paraphrase Lea Seydoux apropos her then boyfriend, they're nothing.
BYW, I did not know you were here, Pere. When did you get here?
Oh, they are SO confused. 1776 is the only model of social change they've allowed themselves to have, and yet they can see that the hated libs and minorities seem to have gotten SOMETHING out of other, nonviolent less-than-revolution means, so they want some of that, but they're aping tactics they don't understand practiced by people they hate, so how could that possibly go well?
Hagerstown is their Valley Forge, and it looks like the body lice caused diseases are starting. They are the summer soldiers that Paine mentioned
Given all the grifters involved, might call it Valley Forgery instead.
"Summ-er sunshine soldiers, and summ-er not."
I've been flipped off by three girls before. You never quite recover from thirteen year olds not thinking you're cool.
Well, it would be fun to see them try to "arrest" cops. But doesn't DC have noise ordinances?
For Black people...
Except at the corner of 7th & Florida...do NOT mess with the Go-Go!
Like to see this try to roll through Anacostia. Or Prince George's County.
The cops are going very gently with them. And I understand it -- you don't want to indulge these assholes by playing cat and mouse all day. But I fear it will require a big incident to get it cleaned up.
I saw that cyclist slowing down the trucks and said "Roy you Magnificent Bastard!" I was sure it was you for a minute.
" wave of respiratory illness"
Wait until they get home and the wave of chlamydia starts..
Studying recent patterns of Craiglist ads & escort services in the Hagerstown environs would be illuminating
I'm surprised I haven't yet heard about the kind of Tinder activism that got some J6ers identified and reported.
"Antifa threw soda on me"
So, right on target, eh truckerboy? I mean, coulda been any random pissed off person, Right? But no: assuming you know what 'antifa' actually means, you're now admitting/embracing your fascisticism. 'Cause antifa don't do no non-fascisti...
My pa and his brother and a few million other Americans were paid by the US Gummint to kill people like you back in the day...
You laugh, but General Cornwallis was defeated by a dousing of Dew.
You are correct in that I DO laugh.
Cheers.
Right, it's the soda stains that will allow us to identify who gets sent to the reeducation camps after the General Strike succeeds in bringing down the government and replacing it with General Assemblies and Talking Circles. Am I worried they might wash their clothes between now and then? No, I am not.
Everyone Who Opposes Me Is Antifa
It's a variation on Vladimir Putin's "Anyone who fights the Russian Army must be a Nazi."
That makes me fa ... so la ti do
I suppose when you’ve got absolutely nothing to justify your actions – there ARE no meaningful Covid restrictions in most places or situations anymore – and people oppose you, there’s nothing else to fall back on besides an “even when I lose, I win” attitude.
I think they probably are, or think they are, testing the fences in preparation for another J6. But since most of what I’ve read about them makes me wonder if they are capable of hitting the urinal on the first squirt let alone toppling the federal government, I have to wonder if the big boys who are funding them really believe they are getting bang for their buck.
If the goal is to keep 70 million Americans on a slow boil, the trucker convoy is just one of many, many things they got goin'. From "Democrats want to put a child pornographer on the Supreme Court" to "Hate Joe Biden because he's a warmonger who's trying to get us into a war in the Ukraine" to "Hate Joe Biden because he's a wimp who's too scared to get us into a war in the Ukraine", they got LOTS of stuff, no one thing needs to be that effective to justify its relatively minimal expense.
"even when I lose, I win" is the default position of all conservatives, because it has been proven that they can commit crimes and even treason with no consequences.
Scared school administrators pulling books from the shelves that MIGHT create controversy. So even if they don't get their book-banning laws past the legislature and the local school board won't formally ban all the LGBTQ titles, they'll still get what they want.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/03/22/school-librarian-book-bans-challenges/
And they really did win the masking fight. Not in the sense of actually persuading a majority of Americans they were right (they never succeed in that). But when Covid-24 comes along, you can be sure lots of local health officials will remember the death threats and hold back in doing, well, basically anything in response. Big win for conservatism (and the coronavirus).
The one thing all us commie america-haters have going for us with this is that when you have 50 manly “alphas” in a room trying to plan some patriotism like J6 Part 2, most of them are going to feel like they’ve been cucked if THEIR PLAN isn’t the one. You can generally count on their need to be in control of a situation to fuck it all up.
I think one of the lessons of Jan. 6 is that you don't have to be all that coordinated to almost overthrow the U.S. government. Just agree on the time and place, and the thugs show up to act on their own initiative. I suspect the scene you're describing, which I can easily imagine, would have taken place if they'd been more successful. Proud Boys and 3 percenters filling the Senate chamber debating what to do with their hostages, with the debate ranging from "kill 'em all right now" to "kill 'em all slowly over a period of days."
What’s that thing people say? 90% of success is just showing up?
Whoa! There was lots of coordination. People are going to prison for conspiracy based on evidence the DOJ has been building up for over a year. They went to DC ready with plans to lead the mob Trump had assembled for them.
Definitely a thing to hope for
“Antifa threw soda on me” is this century’s “Remember the Alamo”.
"I never thought Antifa would throw soda on ME", said the woman who voted for the Antifa Throwing Soda on People Party.
“I saw Antifa throw soda on another person, and I did nothing.”
"Even though it was a waste of some good soda."
'I saw Principal Skinner throw soda on Mrs Krebappel!….`
Were they in a closet? Did the soda look back at you?
Yes, they were.
Yes, it did, after I had gazed into it long enough.
1. What is a "normal" middle finger?
2. Do these guys really like sleeping in truck cabs and relieving themselves in milk jugs?
3. I hope they all die of the coronavirus.
4. It would serve them right if a bunch of people descended on their home towns and made their lives miserable, but who wants to go to Bumf&*k, Georgia?
"What is a "normal" middle finger?"
Just a guess, but it might have something to do with the color of the skin covering said finger?
And the attachment of a penis to the same body hosting the finger.
Personally hoping they don't die of the coronavirus, I'm hoping they're housebound and sick from long covid. Maybe with supplemental oxygen for the rest of their lives. And if they made fat jokes about covid deaths, I'm hoping they get diabetes too.
Arguably, this is awful of me, because wishing disabilities on people is the same as saying disability is a punishment and feeds into that fucked up attitude that leads to their "Well, sick people should stay home anyway" shit. But I'm an asshole and into ironic punishment, so I'm still hoping they lose a foot.
Maybe a compromise punishment can be terminal impotence.
"Not sure what they’ll do then; I doubt they’ll be comfortable sleeping under bridges with the local homeless." Maybe Ginni Thomas will spring for a block of rooms at the Willard.
Wouldn't you know it? Those nasty girlers... with their unusual middle fingers. Perhaps it had a talon upon it? Maybe it was a hex?
Now I'm wondering why the "Conroy" hasn't taken up the flag already of anti-LGBTQ+ agitation or pro-forced birth bills. That energy's latent in the 'tarring & feathering BLM Plaza' or 'antfa soy boy' riffs (rivves?) Why haven't their dark money masters pulled the trigger on that.
Also, now I wonder -- perhaps the need is keeping these chuds in place for J6 2.0 -- when Judge Ketanji is confirmed.
They have to rotate their grievances to keep everyone guessing while they plan the next coup.
We can't even keep up with the grievances
Nor their bottomless wellspring of peevances
But what's even worse
We can only but curse
At the rampant displays of their skeevances
In my experience, if teenage girls give you the finger, they're probably hexing you too.
I think he's confused - it's supposed to be the abnormal little finger that's the sign of space aliens (per "The Invaders", anyway).
I think it's a real classic: The People's Convoy comes to town for the express purpose of making peoples' lives miserable. They're successful in making people pissed off . . . and they're completely confounded that they're not generating the popular support they thought they would get.
Well, they did get Russki Ron and Tailgunner Ted...
The media, however much they're doing, making the assholes and impotent snowflakes look like they're anything but assholes and impotent snowflakes doesn't empower them anywhere nearly as much as they fantasized they're empowering.
As for the tolerant lib crap: Well, you know, after exercising all that tolerance for those who deserve it there isn't anything left in the tank for them who previously mocked said tolerance.
And if I may stumble on my own metaphor, they're the cancer in the body of the nation that we're ignoring.
And to twist GM's comment from yesterday, they're *just* Franken-men, parodies of manly men, acting out the power they don't actually have having given it away to their beloved Republican pols.
They're nothing good. Not even close.
I could go on, of course, but I'm boring me.
Upvoted for "As for the tolerant lib crap: Well, you know, after exercising all that tolerance for those who deserve it there isn't anything left in the tank for them who previously mocked said tolerance."
Yeah, me too.
The WaPo had a long, LONG, profile of the Head Trucker, the challenges he's facing, the occasional doubts he has about the mission and the people he's "leading", how he feels about being attacked by his own for being insufficiently revolutionary, and he didn't come off as a bad sort, just a confused guy in well over his head.
But as I read it I struggled to recall anything remotely like it about the leaders of an Iraq-era peace movement that could put hundreds of thousands of people in the streets of our major cities on the regular. Nope, didn't happen. Sorry, Leslie Cagan, the WaPo just wasn't interested.
"Washington is not my town or even my fellow residents’ town, but instead belonged to the “People of the United States,” which apparently means everyone except the people who live here, so marauders can do any old bullshit here no matter how much it bothers the people who live here so long as it’s done in the name of Freedom"
Same mindset as the bundy crowd out west - the land belongs to the people, so I get to use it for my personal benefit. Same as a vegetable thief once told a gardener friend - this is a community garden on public land, so I can take what I want.
Humans are not a nice species.
“Antifa threw soda on me.” That wasn’t soda in that Mountain Dew bottle, pal,
Sorry, The Revolution will have to move elsewhere, we got some dirt-track racin' to do. That form of knuckleheads driving in circles draws a paying crowd, unlike YOUR kind of knuckleheads driving in circles.
I dunno man – I'd kinda like to see the truckerboys wind those suckas up and do 50 laps on the speedway instead of the Beltway. Would I buy a ticket? Depends on who's payin'.
> […] the upper-middle-class types who
> rampaged through the Capitol on J6
The Brooks Brothers Riot has been going strong since 2000—then again, when have men of property _ever_ believed that the Law rightly applied to them? Mr Trump is only an extreme and blatant example in his belief in infantile freedom for his rich self.
How does the saying go? There are those the law is meant to protect but not bind, and those the law is meant to bind but not protect. Guess which group these guys are in?
I live in Huntington Beach. For exercise I ride the beach walk through HN & Newport Beach. There are a couple of motor home parks on the beach. Whenever I see a Trump flag flying from a motor home, I flip it off.
Today a guy yelled at me when I did that. He told me it was his flag & told me not to flip the bird because his kids were around. I told him that wasn't my problem. If he doesn't want me flipping off the Trump 2024 flag, take it down.
MAGAts are deeply stupid. The asshole in question told me my gesture was offensive. I told him his flag offended me. He said something about the 1st Amendment. I said, yeah, that's why I can flip you off, free speech.
I'm certain he didn't understand.
I flipped it off when I came by it on the way home too. At least he didn't say anything this time.