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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

They've got the power, but we've got the irony. Oh boy, have we got the irony.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

What is making my head explode: the people who support forcing a woman to give birth after carrying a pregnancy for nine months are the SAME PEOPLE screaming that wearing a piece of cloth on their faces in public is a tyrannical infringement on their personal liberty.

The conservatives on the Court are acting like the standard-issue Republicans they are: “we only worshipfully cite democracy, precedent, and the Constitution when we feel we are at a disadvantage. When we are firmly in charge, we do whatever the fuck we want.”

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

It’s Cleek’s Law all the way down.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

The screamers don't want you to tell them what to do. They want to tell you what to do. And if they manage to discourage enough people from voting we will see MAGA style tyranny and personal liberty--which means no personal liberty at all.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

MAGA style tyranny and personal liberty--which means no personal liberty at all.

Isn't this more like Wilhoit's law? There are those law binds but does not protect, and those the law protects but does not bind. With MAGAt's in the second group, non-MAGAt's in the first group

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"You're not the boss of me! I'm the boss of you!"

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The True Believers have killed the Cash Cow and the establishment grifters are still in shock. The rubes meanwhile will turn to their time honored source of medical wisdom, Tractor Supply, and come up with some way of taking care of all this.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

(They'll be looking on the announcements tack board at the register of Tractor Supply for a replacement Cash Cow.)

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

And the words of the profits were written on the feed store walls. "They Want To Take Your Guns," most likely. Actually, it's a tossup. It's getting harder to hide the climate change, and they're gonna need to throw some last ditch shit at the fan to keep people from noticing that until it's too late, but they can always claim we're gonna take their guns before we kill their cows.

But really, the way they're skullfucking covid, we're probably looking at years of voting cycles driven by masks, 5G, and weed n feed.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

It's worth remembering that the entire anti-abortion movement was initially created to get the evangelical crowd to support Ronald Reagan because Reagan told evangelical leaders back in the '70s that he would (if elected) make sure they would face no civil rights prosecutions for running Whites-only schools.

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What a man does in the privacy of his own school is no one's business but his own. ]Jesus said that. Maybe Lester Maddox. Some confederate

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

The "funny" thing about that is that the original suit against Bob James U, was filed by Nixon and Ford's IRS and little more than final judgement happened during Carter's term, but he got blamed for it. During Reagan's term, BJU lost a SCOTUS case related to this, which I assume Reagan's Solicitor General argued the US case

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You make a good case for prohibiting churches from hiring lawyers.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

No. You wonder why they pressured the hospitals to make abortion done in standalone clinics? It was to isolate them as a service a lot of people found distasteful and a lot more were going to once they started waving the signs. Why should we tie up hospital security for those sluts?

Now they've managed to silo it even more. Now they can focus all their attention on a few states that will maintain the right. it'll be easy. They only have to change state laws. There's less money there, and they can overwhelm it. This is the NRA model. I'm in an open carry state. It fucking worked, and it will work again if we pretend they're done.

This may have been utilitarian, but it still works. They still want to use it. They have lost any control over their Id. Now it's just hiding that until it's too late.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Statistics these days are funny things, especially when it comes to polling. Clear majorities of Americans from both Parties support getting out of Afghanistan, which means getting out of Afghanistan is unpopular? Clear majorities of Americans support access to abortion, which means abortion is unpopular? Clear majorities of Americans approve of Joe Biden's job as president, which means Joe Biden is unpopular?

It's a media quirk, I guess. Just as the media breathlessly reported that Joe Biden--a lifelong devout Catholic--isn't really terribly religious while Donald Trump (who had never set foot in a church) was just a pious exemplar that evangelicals worshipped.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

I thought that the evangelicals knew Trump wasn't one of them, but didn't care as long as he did what they wanted. As we've just seen, that strategy has paid off.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Never assume that people disagree with you because they're stupid; they may very possibly know their own business very well and have values and perceptions (usually values-driven) antithetical to yours.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

but not having my values and perceptions are great, so not having them is stupid

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Let me try and make that statement coherent

but my values and perceptions are great, so not having them is stupid

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Perhaps many reporters are in that field partially because they are bad at math?

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

The media primarily in the business of distributing establishment propaganda which is per se conservative. Since the establishment doesn’t give a fuck about us other than as targets for exploitation, the media needs to follow that lead. And along with being propaganda mills, they have to do all they can to promote the GOP. Not going to say the media are lying 100% of the time but they approximately 99-plus % of the time. So what you wonder they don’t do is because they can’t and don’t want to.

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Just clocking in for my shift, punching my card for another 12-hours at the 'bortion factory, with an hour for lunch, & two 15-minute smoke breaks where I have to smoke right in the faces of five pregnant people--so it's not really a break, thank you Bill Clinton. All in all, it's a good gig, better than teaching robots how to swim.

Plus they check your lunchbox on the way out, just to make sure you're not bringing any feti out in the world. As you might imagine, anything lunch including rice is prohibited. The union's fighting it, but you know...

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

This Texas antisex law is fiendishly clever, promising pecksniffs the ability to legally torture anyone they suspect is engaging in penis-in-vagina sex without the intention of whelping more cannon fodder and wage slaves. It can only be the product of legislators who are either infertile or blithely unaware that their wives, daughters, girl friends and mistresses now have an even stronger motivation to just say no, or become an unanticipated $10k liability.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

If there is no underclass, create one.

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If you have one, make it bigger & gild the walls

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They are going to use their recently discovered yet somehow highly honed internet research skills to hunt down baby killers and earn fat cash while they do it. There will be, sure as shit ( in a world full of ivectrim users) a reality TV show on the History Channel or HGTV

" Abortion Hunters."

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They assume this won't touch them because as always they have the wherewithal to take care of THEIR wives, daughters,etc.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

I remember an interview with some Republican women who admitted to having had abortions. "Well, but we really needed it, these kids today are just having abortions whenever they want!" Human beings are truly remarkable.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Except now some jealous neighbor, political rival or waiter they stiffed at Chez Burgeur can sue them for $10,000 and legal fees. This is gonna bite some wick-dipping Republican dipshits.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

It's just basic Aristotelian logic, Roy;

The majority of Americans believe in restricting some abortions.

These are some abortions.

Therefore... well, do I really need to collect the dots for you?

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("connect" the dots, dummy.)

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'If you collect enough of the dot-sized embryos you'll equal the weight of an actual baby!'

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Periodic reminder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

If there’s any silver lining to this at all, it’s that I can’t imagine it doing anything to increase the popularity of Christianity. When your fundy neighbors are rooting through your trash cans and taking pictures of your teenage daughter every day to check if her belly got any bigger, you’re not going to be inclined toward charitable thoughts.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

For those still believing the rule of law means shit to a majority of SCOTUS "justices", maybe this case will convince them. The majority was 100% party, 0% rule of law and precedent. Pure shit hole nation. (Also puts the lie to us being developed or terribly civilized.)

So...

"But I am a little surprised that they’re staying so quiet about it..."

Hard towboats about this without or without giving an opening noting that what the five pieces of shit did was to, well, shit on the rule of law. Adhering to precedent is the core principle of appellate law and this decision is a huge fuck you to the concept. BTW: This is not developed nation jurisprudence.

So maybe the quiet is attributable to the difficulty in boasting about while ignoring what SCOTUS did. Almost speaking of which, maybe interesting how the media can't be more liberal than noting that Roberts was with the comrades in dissent yet noting the above shitting on respect for precedent is too much for the to manage. Which, you know, along with the DNC quitting the opposition party thing in the late 80s, contributed to the current state of affairs - not just in regard to this but also climate change, race, the economy, Covid (still acting like there's much of a national response as opposed to domination by the states), voting limitations, etc., etc., all turning us into a failed state.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Let's jail the parents of all kids who try any drug. After all, they're enablers, aren't they? Or bad parents. They deserve it either way.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

I'm gonna need a few things from the liberal dudes of the world. First, unless you have specific expertise on the law, and the person you are talking to does not (and yes, you should check), please do not tell any of your pregnancy-risk allies that they're overreacting.

Second, please stop suggesting ways those of us who are losing our rights can fix this, especially if what you're about to say is something like "As a man, I know how lazy we are, and you're going to have to force us into it with a sex strike." I accepted the premise that I have to force Biden into doing the right thing because he needs cover against the republicans. You will get no comparable blowback for giving a shit about your partners' rights. Just fucking be adults about this, okay? This isn't altruism. It benefits you too, to do the right thing. Especially if you think you have a right to our votes.

Because at this point, the framing of hostage takers that we apply to republicans? I'm seeing it in a lot of lefty privileged men who think this is another sacrifice we can make on the way to either bipartisanship or heightening the contradictions.

I want you as allies, not as generals. Find the people who are already doing the work, and help them.

Also, ALL of the NeverTrumpers need to shut the fuck up. I no more want to hear from Norm Ornstein than I do Charlie Sykes. This is what they wanted, they're not done yet, and as soon as we let them rehabilitate themselves by not being as crass as Trump, they will try to take the next step. They have not changed, they just want, as Roy notes, to be free of blowback for it. They don't care about the collateral damage, because we're not really people to them anyway, we're still the other side.

All of the above goes also, and again especially, for white people looking at the voting crap they pulled too. Find someone doing the right thing. Ask them what they need.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

I am seriously considering printing out this comment and having it framed. Hear fucking hear.

Anyone who minimizes SCOTUS’s move here, from the right OR the left, either doesn’t understand how conservatives operate, doesn’t understand how laws work, or doesn’t give a shit about women. And these categories are not mutually exclusive.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Really? Half convinced I'm gonna get banned for this kind of thing. I don't have a handle on anger. Despair, yes. Which kind of means I'm not done fighting this yet, so that's good I guess. But we may be to the point where we need to light ourselves on fire and maybe you need despair for that.

There's plenty of blame to go around. Me included. But I'm not listening to hot takes from people who said this wouldn't happen when the truth was they didn't care. That includes a lot of women.

Also not all that optimistic that the sneaky shit won't work and they'll be able to keep the backlash under wraps so they can run for the next bullshit on their list.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

I have long felt that Democrats consistently failed to drive home to their voters the importance of the courts. On the other hand, Republicans have been laser-focused on the courts, particularly SCOTUS, for decades. Mind you, so many rank and file Democrats have their heads in the sand and are in love with the notion of bipartisanship and seeing the GOP as the loyal opposition that I’m not sure it would have woken them up if Democratic politicians screamed from the rooftops about the dangers of a Republican Court.

The reality is many if not most conservatives would like nothing better than to return society to the late 1880s, after Reconstruction had been smashed and women couldn’t yet vote. That is a bitter pill for most Democrats to swallow, but that doesn’t change the fact it’s the truth.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Really, I think they want to send us back to pre-Civil War days. They want to own people and resurrect Dred Scott law where a black person has no rights a white man needs to respect

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Feudalism: An Idea Whose Time Has Finally Come...Again? The Second Coming is always qualified...With a Vengeance!

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

The DNC has loathed being a true opposition party since the late 1980s. Only the little people suffer for that.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

This is eerie because just yesterday I thought to myself, "Jeez, I'm gonna have to light myself on fire" and then wondered where exactly would be the most useful place and moment to do it. Then I had to lie down. But it's still in my head.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

It's been my plan for a while. I feel like the key is finding a way to sew the clothes onto you before you douse them in lighter fluid. And then finding a way to attach yourself to your target with something you can get through a metal detector and they can't cut easily.

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Please don't actually hurt yourself. The world needs you.

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Don't worry about it. I've been here fifty plus years. Probably okay for a while yet.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

"Find someone doing the right thing. Ask them what they need."

Again, my shameful lack of needlepoint skills keeps me from giving this comment the honor it deserves.

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Sep 3, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

It's not an original thought. There's always someone already doing the work, who knows what's needed. We don't have to trial and error a lot of this stuff, because someone already knows what works. Usually, we just need to throw money and time at a problem, because that's usually the thing we haven't tried.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

My thought, although I am not a lawyer, is that the first case under this law needs to be Greg Abbott

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

CAN I PLEASE JUST QUOTE YOU IN FULL ALL DAY EVERY DAY because fucking seriously

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Go ahead. I do outrage okay, if not anger.

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Evidently the tip line is full of Shrek memes. That's cool. Maybe we should turn in , like, all the crank ladies on the schoolboards in Texas or the secretaries of all the Baptist churches. Any woman working for a conservative of note really. Abortion Hunters would be all over that shit. The only thing a good Texas Baptist hates more than us is other Baptists. This is a real dick move, accusing innocent people and all but I'm pretty sure we're at the " All's fair etc. Stage of the game. We get those Korean Tik-Tok kids to do the reporting for us. They love that stuff and their good at it.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

Just excellent as always. If they haven't yet, anyone wanting to know why the Texas bill is terrible as "law" and how the right-wingers on the Supreme Court have all the legal integrity of talk-radio callers should read Sotomayor's fiery dissent. Any legislature can write completely unconstitutional laws now as long as they are enforced by vigilantes and this Supreme Court is just fine with it.

Everything about the bill is appalling, but even the "fetal heartbeat" that is fundamental to this and other laws is complete bullshit; it's not a heartbeat, it doesn't have a heart, and at 6 weeks it's not even a fetus yet. (The text of the bill defines an embryo or fetus as an "unborn child" and calls it that throughout, but that's to be expected from supernaturally dishonest Texas Republicans.)

I expect that as other states fall into line with this -- Missouri is all set to go with their own and the SC just gave them the green light -- they'll be less cagey about it, and will start trumpeting how principled they're being saving all these beebees from the holocaust. At the very least, we can enjoy all the testimonials from virtuous wingnuts whose mothers were going to abort them but lucky for us and Jesus they didn't.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/21a24_8759.pdf

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

"Any legislature can write completely unconstitutional laws now as long as they are enforced by vigilantes..."

Imagine where they can take this. $10000 bounties on anyone who aids an "illegal alien" must already be in the drafting stage.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

It’s been clear for awhile now that the GOP hacks at SCOTUS don’t give a shit about the rule of law other than as a tool for repression.

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

I think they're quiet because they're waiting to see whether it'll be polutically safe for them not to be. Remember, these days

evangelicals == Trumpites

but

Trumpites ≠ evangelicals

—some of them are xenophobes and misogynists who'd at least like to _think_ of themselves as rough-shod redneck boys who love raisin' Hell, a M.A.G.A. hat above an E. Normus Johnson T-shirt.

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s/polutically/politically/1

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Sep 2, 2021Liked by Roy Edroso

They've just given up on trying to persuade anyone not already inducted into the cult. I haven't seen a politician make a pitch for conservative economics (cut spending, balance the budget, yada yada) since the days of Gingrich. They know it won't sell anymore, so why bother trying? I guess we're just seeing the same thing with abortion.

They all know they don't need majority support (or even a majority of the votes) to hold power, so why even bother?

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